Разговор:Свети Јован Златоусти

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Чланак је потребно преименовати у Јован Златоусти, у складу са Википедијиним правилима именовања.--Дамјан /разговарајмо/ 03:17, 4. децембар 2008. (CET)[одговори]

А ово треба урадити што пре, пошто је бот на преусмеривачу већ додао интервики линкове!--Ирић Игор (разговор) 14:46, 5. децембар 2008. (CET)[одговори]

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Преносим овде текст са странице који је изгледа био предмет спорења, али је избрисан од стране анонимног корисника без дискусије.--Ирић Игор (разговор) 19:46, 19. јануар 2009. (CET)[одговори]

Контроверзе[уреди извор]

У својим беседама износи ставове против Јевреја, због чега га оптужују за антисемитизам.[1]


Међутим, када се прочита текст у контексту откривамо сасвим јасно да он не позива на прогон или шта слично, већ користи старозаветну симболику да објасни како је Јудаизам одбацио Христа, као што је и Сам Господ говорио у сликама да би објаснио неке теолошке проблеме са Јудаизмом. http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/chrysostom-jews6.html#HOMILY_I

(5) But what is the source of this hardness? It come from gluttony and drunkenness. Who say so? Moses himself. "Israel ate and was filled and the darling grew fat and frisky". When brute animals feed from a full manger, they grow plump and become more obstinate and hard to hold in check; they endure neither the yoke, the reins, nor the hand of the charioteer. Just so the Jewish people were driven by their drunkenness and plumpness to the ultimate evil; they kicked about, they failed to accept the yoke of Christ, nor did they pull the plow of his teaching. Another prophet hinted at this when he said: "Israel is as obstinate as a stubborn heifer". And still another called the Jews "an untamed calf".

(6) Although such beasts are unfit for work, they are fit for killing. And this is what happened to the Jews: while they were making themselves unfit for work, they grew fit for slaughter. This is why Christ said: "But as for these my enemies, who did not want me to be king over them, bring them here and slay them". You Jews should have fasted then, when drunkenness was doing those terrible things to you, when your gluttony was giving birth to your ungodliness-not now. Now your fasting is untimely and an abomination. Who said so? Isaiah himself when he called out in a loud voice: "I did not choose this fast, say the Lord". Why? "You quarrel and squabble when you fast and strike those subject to you with your fists". But if you fasting was an abomination when you were striking your fellow slaves, does it become acceptable now that you have slain your Master? How could that be right?

Напомене[уреди извор]

  1. ^ James Parkes, Prelude to Dialogue (London: 1969) p. 153; cited in Wilken, p. xv.
  2. ^ Smještanje mraka u mračno doba