Razgovor s korisnikom:Dungodung
Invitation for Functionary consultation 2021
Greetings,
I'm letting you know in advance about a meeting I'd like to invite you to regarding the Universal Code of Conduct and the community's ownership of its future enforcement. I'm still in the process of putting together the details, but I wanted to share the date with you: 27 June, 2021. I do not have a time on this date yet, but I will let you soon. We have created a meta page with basic information. Please take a look at the meta page and sign up your name under the appropriate section.
Thank you for your time.--BAnand (WMF) 15:06, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Feliks bot
Feliks bot je stao da ažurira pre 15 dana. Poteraj ga kad stigneš, dosta se odmarao . Pozdrav.— Soundwaweserb (razgovor) 15:36, 28. jun 2021. (CEST)
Patroliranje
Kad si patrolirao, desio se previd i ispatrolirao si lošu netačnu izmenu na stranici HNK Hajduk Split. Primetio je to korisnik Marko235 i vratio, ali tek posle 17 dana. Znam da te sport ne interesuje, znam da to nije tvoje interesovanje, ali bih te zamolio da takve izmene ne patroliraš. Dešava se da u brzini čovek pogreši, sve shvatam, ali preskoči te izmene oko sporta i ostavi drugim urednicima patrolerima kao što je Marko235, MareBG, Vukan C, SimplyFreddie koji se razumeju i prate sport. Hajde, kao neko iskupljenje za ovu grešku, pronađi slobodnog vremena bar dva ili tri sata i sredi Feliks bota da ažurira one stranice. Pozdrav i svako dobro .— Soundwaweserb (razgovor) 15:57, 7. jul 2021. (CEST)
- Opet bezrasudno patroliraš i vraćaš. Proveri za dve sekunde na internetu, ako mi ne veruješ. Ovo postaje frustrirajuće. Pogotovu što, barem tako mislim, nisam baš ruki ili neki vandal. — Ničim neizazvan (razgovor) 22:59, 21. oktobar 2021. (CEST)
- Bogme, previše kontroverznih izmena imaš, imaš sreće što te više ne revertujem! — F± 23:03, 21. oktobar 2021. (CEST)
- Pucaj slobodno, šta veliš. Nijesam ovde da se krijem. Samo proveri dve sekunde ovako neke činjenice, što se tiče ortografije (pravopisa) tu slobodno možeš da se osloniš na me, tu sam Surf Bog, što bi rekao Ničke 3000. — Ničim neizazvan (razgovor) 23:06, 21. oktobar 2021. (CEST)
- Zaboravio si da staviš oblast na korisničkoj strani, između Beograd i Srbije. Ako si iz Grada Beograda imaš tri opcije: Šumadija, Srem ili Banat. Ako je ovo prvo, ondak posle toga ide Balkansko poluostrvo, ako su druga dva ide Srednja Evropa. Pa tek onda Evropa. — Ničim neizazvan (razgovor) 23:38, 23. oktobar 2021. (CEST)
- Pucaj slobodno, šta veliš. Nijesam ovde da se krijem. Samo proveri dve sekunde ovako neke činjenice, što se tiče ortografije (pravopisa) tu slobodno možeš da se osloniš na me, tu sam Surf Bog, što bi rekao Ničke 3000. — Ničim neizazvan (razgovor) 23:06, 21. oktobar 2021. (CEST)
- Bogme, previše kontroverznih izmena imaš, imaš sreće što te više ne revertujem! — F± 23:03, 21. oktobar 2021. (CEST)
Bezrasudno vraćanje ispravne transkripcije
Pomaže Bog. Da li Vi imate nešto konkretno protiv mene ili mi samo iz ličnog hira poništavate izmene, kao što je ova ( https://sr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BC%D1%98%D1%83%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%91%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%82&diff=24093478&oldid=24093086 )? Znajte — upozoravam Vas — da će Vaše izmene biti vraćene jer se ja pozivam na institucije, a Vi, izgleda, ne proveravate literaturu. Ako imate nešto konkretno protivu mene, slobodno mi to i napišite (nisam ljutljive prirode), nemojte voditi skrivene ratove. Nijesam — barem tako mislim — zaslužio. Pozdrav. Slava Bogu. Ničim neizazvan (razgovor) 14:30, 16. oktobar 2021. (CEST)
Pogledaj šablon, koristi se samo na jednoj stranici - Evropska unija. I prikazuje se sa greškom. --Jarash (razgovor) 19:21, 18. oktobar 2021. (CEST)
Growth Newsletter #19
Welcome to the nineteenth newsletter from the Growth team!
The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in Wikimedia projects.
Structured tasks
- "Add a link" is the team's first structured task. It uses machine-learning to suggest wikilinks as easy edits for newcomers. It was deployed in May 2021 on four Wikipedias and then in July on eight more Wikipedias after we evaluated the initial results. So far, we've seen a high level of engagement from newcomers. Communities that have the feature suggested valuable ideas for improvement. We'll work on improvements and then contact more communities to deploy it.
- "Add an image" is the team's second structured task, currently in development. It is an editing task that suggests Commons images for unillustrated Wikipedia articles. We have conducted many community discussions and tests. Then, we've decided to build a first prototype. We'll first deploy it only to our pilot Wikipedias, to learn whether newcomers can be successful with the task. The project page contains links to interactive prototypes. We are very interested to hear your thoughts on this idea as we build and test the early versions. These prototypes have already been tested by newcomers, in English and Spanish.
News for mentors
- The Mentor dashboard is available at our pilot wikis: Arabic, Czech, and Bengali Wikipedias. It will soon be available at a few more volunteering wikis, as a test. [1]
- At wikis where the mentor dashboard is deployed, a new filter is available for mentors. Mentors can monitor their mentees' activity in Watchlist and RecentChanges, so they can help support their mentees' work. For privacy reasons, this filter can't be accessed by someone else than the mentor itself. This filter only filters mentees assigned to the mentor. This filter is not visible for people who are not listed as mentors [2]
Community configuration
- Communities now have the ability to configure how Growth features behave on their own wikis. At Special:EditGrowthConfig, community members can add a list of volunteer mentors, alter the templates used for suggested edits, update help links, and more. This special page is editable by administrators and interface admins.
Scaling
- We are proud to announce that all Wikipedias now have the Growth features! Thank you to all the community members who helped the team build the features and bring them to their wikis. The only exception is Chinese Wikipedia (zh), for technical reasons. [3]
- The wikis that have Growth features deployed have been part of A/B testing since deployment, in which some newcomers did not receive the new features. Now, all of the newcomers on 280 of the smallest of those Wikipedias have the features. [4][5]
- A test is undergoing at English Wikipedia: 25% of newcomers receive the Growth features. The results from this test will be part of a discussion of how to proceed on that wiki.
- Now that Growth features are available at Wikipedia, the Growth team considers to extend them to other projects. Some Wikisource users have expressed some interest in getting Growth features. There is currently a discussion about implementing them on Wikisource.
News for communities
- Do you have questions about the Growth features? This translatable FAQ contains answers to the most common questions about the Growth team work.
- The Growth features were recently used in a test amongst Latin American donors to give donors the opportunity to learn to edit. You can see the results here.
- Interface translations are important for newcomers. Please help for your language, by translating or copyediting interface translations for the Growth features.
- Help:GettingStarted was a feature developed in 2013, which directed newcomers to articles that needed editing. We recently removed this feature from all wikis, because it has been replaced by the Growth features.
Growth team's newsletter prepared by the Growth team and posted by bot • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe.
20:36, 26. oktobar 2021. (CEST)
Broj stanovnika i demografija Velike Hoče.
Poštovani, živim u Velikoj Hoči i mogu da Vam kažem da ste izneli netačan podatak o populaciji Velike Hoče. U Velikoj Hoči živi 465 ljudi, od kojih su 457 Srbi. Ja sam to ispravio i uneo tačne podatke, ali ste Vi to opet vratili kako je bilo pre toga. Nema smisla da lažete narod. Napisali ste da Velika Hoča broji 127 stanovnika, od kojih su većina Albanci. Sramota. Molio bih vas da to ispravite i da napišete onako kako jeste. Hvala unapred. Markosuvi95 (razgovor) 16:52, 4. novembar 2021. (CET)
Zdravo,
Samo da vidim razlog zasto je ponistena moja izmena na gore pomenutoj strani posto je ta ustanova prestala da prestoji, tj. preuzeta je i inkorporirana u drugu edukativnu ustanovu?
Ne moze se vise ni otici na sajt, posto isti redirektuje ka ustanovi koja ju je preuzela.
Putem pretraga preko Googla mozete videti i na Google My Business delu da je ITEP trajno zatvorena ( https://www.google.com/search?q=itep%20banja%20luka )
Mozda je neka moja greska u editovanju ili nisam ispostovao neki Wiki standard? Nisam bas redovan korisnik/editor Wiki strana.
Srdacno, MilanAspire (razgovor) 01:29, 9. novembar 2021. (CET)
- @MilanAspire: Ne može na vrhu članka da stoji preusmerenje. Ili je članak preusmerenje ili nije. To što škola više ne postoji ne znači da ne treba da postoji članak o njoj. — F± 22:56, 9. novembar 2021. (CET)
- @Dungodung Razumem. Hvala MilanAspire (razgovor) 23:33, 9. novembar 2021. (CET)
Miroslav Petrović
Objasnite zašto nastavljate da brišete istinite, tačne, enciklopedijske informacije koje su izuzetno relevantne za životni stil i javna učenja hiljada sledbenika Muroljuba Petrovića. StareTradicije (razgovor) 13:32, 14. novembar 2021. (CET)
Poštovani,
Koji je vaš predlog? Koja slika bi trebalo stojiti na stranici Naruhito?
Izaberite jednu od ovih. - Olga311 (razgovor) 16:05, 22. decembar 2021. (CET)
- Mislim da nije baš previše značajno koju sliku odabrati. Korisno je da bude novijeg datuma i da se predmet fotografije vidi jasno, i da što više gleda u kameru. Tako da predlažem ovu. F± 22:27, 22. decembar 2021. (CET)
How we will see unregistered users
Hi!
You get this message because you are an admin on a Wikimedia wiki.
When someone edits a Wikimedia wiki without being logged in today, we show their IP address. As you may already know, we will not be able to do this in the future. This is a decision by the Wikimedia Foundation Legal department, because norms and regulations for privacy online have changed.
Instead of the IP we will show a masked identity. You as an admin will still be able to access the IP. There will also be a new user right for those who need to see the full IPs of unregistered users to fight vandalism, harassment and spam without being admins. Patrollers will also see part of the IP even without this user right. We are also working on better tools to help.
If you have not seen it before, you can read more on Meta. If you want to make sure you don’t miss technical changes on the Wikimedia wikis, you can subscribe to the weekly technical newsletter.
We have two suggested ways this identity could work. We would appreciate your feedback on which way you think would work best for you and your wiki, now and in the future. You can let us know on the talk page. You can write in your language. The suggestions were posted in October and we will decide after 17 January.
Thank you. /Johan (WMF)
19:19, 4. januar 2022. (CET)
Patroliranje
Pozdrav Filipe, zamolio bih te po ko zna koji put da povedeš računa šta patroliraš. Radi se o članku Fondacija Almagi kome fale kategorije, upitnog je značaja i kao što vidiš ima dosta nepravilnosti u njemu. Zbog pravilnosti i funkcionisanja ovog projekta, ali i poštovanja nas koji pregledamo izmene pre patroliranja. Srećan Božić. — MareBG (razgovor) 23:58, 6. januar 2022. (CET)
- Ne vidim ništa sporno sa tim člankom. Da može da se doradi, može, ali to ne znači da ne može da se patrolira. Ne može patroliranje ostati za "savršene" izmene, jer onda ne bi imalo nikakvog smisla! F± 00:00, 7. januar 2022. (CET)
- @MareBG Moram i ja da se uključim u ovu diskusiju. Ja se slažem sa Fićom u tome da ako je neko napravio sasvim validnu izmenu, nema potrebe da se sada to perfekcioniše ali se itekako može tom autoru reći šta bi trebali još da dodaju. Pa nismo mi ovde dadilje da idemo za svakim urednikom i ispravljamo ono što bi oni mogli da urade ako im se kaže. Čovek se uči dok je živ :)
- Srećno badnje veče (kod mene je i dalje 6. januar) i Božić ! Boki piši 00:27, 7. januar 2022. (CET)
- U pravu je Mare, saglasan sam sa njim. — Ničim neizazvan (razgovor) 00:37, 7. januar 2022. (CET)
- @Boki: Boki, to je rad patrolera, srediti članak ako treba a ne samo patrolirati (opet napominjem da patroler nije titula). Ovaj članak ima dosta problema, nema unutrašnje veze, spoljašnje veze neenciklopedijske...) Patroleri su urednici koji, ako je to moguće, urede članak, tako da su sa neke strane dadilje a naročito novajlijama. Srećan Božić. — Acaalexaca (razgovor) 00:47, 7. januar 2022. (CET)
- @Acaalexaca Razumem te ali samo želim da kažem da u nekim situacijama i ja označim da je članak početnički ali sad baš da gledamo u sitna crevca, stvarno nemam vremena za to inače bi pola od ovih izmena vraćao jer pola njih npr. ne stavlja referencu na neke izmene koje postave. Srećan Božić i tebi ! Boki piši 00:51, 7. januar 2022. (CET)
- @Boki: Boki, to je rad patrolera, srediti članak ako treba a ne samo patrolirati (opet napominjem da patroler nije titula). Ovaj članak ima dosta problema, nema unutrašnje veze, spoljašnje veze neenciklopedijske...) Patroleri su urednici koji, ako je to moguće, urede članak, tako da su sa neke strane dadilje a naročito novajlijama. Srećan Božić. — Acaalexaca (razgovor) 00:47, 7. januar 2022. (CET)
- U pravu je Mare, saglasan sam sa njim. — Ničim neizazvan (razgovor) 00:37, 7. januar 2022. (CET)
- Ko nema vremena ili interesovanja neka ne patrolira. Ovaj gore navedeni članak ne sme i ne treba da ostane takav. Podsetiću te na tvoje bisere patroliranja. Uopšte nisam ovde da se prepirem sa tobom da li jesi ili ne u pravu, jer nisi. Samo povedi više računa i isto očekujem od tebe, da meni skreneš pažnju ako misliš da negde grešim. — MareBG (razgovor) 01:38, 7. januar 2022. (CET)
- Pa eto, ovde mislim da grešiš. Mislim da je patroliranje izmena na postojećim člancima daleko daleko daleko ... daleko bitnije nego patroliranje novih članaka, jer novi članci su upadljivi i kao što i sam prolaziš kroz njih, postoji još urednika koji ih pregledaju (bilo da su patrolirani, bilo da nisu). Naravno, članci koji su očigledno problematični treba da imaju šablone na vrhu i to uvek i stavljam. Moj argument je da ovo nije bio očigledno problematičan članak. F± 21:41, 7. januar 2022. (CET)
- Ko nema vremena ili interesovanja neka ne patrolira. Ovaj gore navedeni članak ne sme i ne treba da ostane takav. Podsetiću te na tvoje bisere patroliranja. Uopšte nisam ovde da se prepirem sa tobom da li jesi ili ne u pravu, jer nisi. Samo povedi više računa i isto očekujem od tebe, da meni skreneš pažnju ako misliš da negde grešim. — MareBG (razgovor) 01:38, 7. januar 2022. (CET)
Govor mržnje
Stari kolega, teški su dani pred nama. Silne sam reči ispisao dok nisam dobio ogradu od govora mržnje, koji potiče od jednog korisnika ove vikipedije. Mene apsolutno ne zanima obrazloženje da komentari nemaju veze sa Vikipedijom, jer su napisani na Diskordu. Znaš i sam da to i te kako ima veze. Mržnja je mržnja i gde god se ispoljava nije zdrava i mora se osuditi. I kad naletimo na ovakve slučajeve, treba da se razbistre pred većim krugom, a ne da se prepusti kurtoazijski da korisnici sami između sebe stvari razračunaju. Ljudi kao da žele dodatne komplikacij, a to nije veruj mi ono što Vikipediji treba. Bolje sprečiti nego lečiti. Ali vidim da neki ipak žele "lečiti" slučaj, ako se zakomplikuje. Nije me bilo na Vikipediji relativno kratko vreme i vidi u šta se pretvorila. — Vladimir Nimčević (razgovor) 11:21, 12. januar 2022. (CET)
- Žao mi je što se to desilo. Je l' možeš da pružiš malo više informacija o tome ko je pisao taj govor mržnje, kada i šta je tačno bio sadržaj? F± 22:35, 12. januar 2022. (CET)
Još jedna pesma o maloj garavoj
Pozdrav! Možete li da vratite stranicu Još jedna pesma o maloj garavoj? Inače treba da dodam odeljke kompozicija, reference i spot. HVALA i pozdrav iz Čačka! — Prethodni nepotpisani komentar ostavila je korisnica EmiliaITČA (razgovor • doprinosi)
mASIAfucker...
...nije kao MASIAfucker. To je naslov knjige. — Mile (razgovor) 11:19, 11. februar 2022. (CET)
Srediti Glavnuu stranu: Dobar članak - Lepa Radić - Senke nad Balkanom ?!
Portal Fudbal
Pozdrav !
Imam jedno tehničko pitanje za tebe.
Naime, kada prepravim stranicu na fudbalskom portalu, iz nekog razloga mi se uopšte ne osveži u pretraživaču a pokušao sam sve (različiti pretraživači, obrisao cache, itd.)
Kad pogledam na mobilnom, radi super ali ne znam zašto neće dok sam na laptopu.
Znaš li ti možda u čemu je reč ?
Boki piši 17:20, 3. mart 2022. (CET)
- Nemam predstavu. Možda je neki bag... F± 18:23, 3. mart 2022. (CET)
- @Dungodung - Ali znači sve sam probao i neće. Jel ti se još neko javljao sa istom greškom ? Boki piši 20:14, 3. mart 2022. (CET)
- Ne, ali moguće da je relativno svež bag. Takve stvari možeš prijaviti na fabrikatoru. F± 23:37, 3. mart 2022. (CET)
- @Dungodung - A na koji način se to radi ? Nisam nikad tamo zalazio pa ne bih nešto da zabrljam. Boki piši 17:13, 4. mart 2022. (CET)
- Pa prosto je. Prijaviš se tamo, napraviš novi task, gde koncizno u naslovu opišeš problem, a onda u glavnom polju za opis problema... opišeš ga detaljno, uz prilaganje snimaka ekrana. F± 21:34, 5. mart 2022. (CET)
- @Dungodung - A na koji način se to radi ? Nisam nikad tamo zalazio pa ne bih nešto da zabrljam. Boki piši 17:13, 4. mart 2022. (CET)
- Ne, ali moguće da je relativno svež bag. Takve stvari možeš prijaviti na fabrikatoru. F± 23:37, 3. mart 2022. (CET)
- @Dungodung - Ali znači sve sam probao i neće. Jel ti se još neko javljao sa istom greškom ? Boki piši 20:14, 3. mart 2022. (CET)
Growth Newsletter #20
Welcome to the twentieth newsletter from the Growth team!
The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in Wikimedia projects.
Suggested edits
As of February, 300,000 suggested edits have been completed since the feature was first deployed in December 2019.
Add a link is the team's first structured task, deployed in May 2021. It has improved outcomes for newcomers. The team is now working on a second iteration based on community feedback and data analysis. Improvements will include: improved algorithmic suggestions, guardrails to prevent too many similar links to be added, and clearer encouragement for users to continue making edits. After adding these improvements, we will deploy this task to more Wikipedias.
Add an image is the second structured task built by our team. It was deployed in November 2021 to four pilot Wikipedias. This is a more challenging task for newcomers. However, it adds more value to articles (so far, over 1,000 images have been added). We are currently learning from communities and from the data on what is working well and what needs improvements. The project page contains links to interactive prototypes. We are very interested to hear your thoughts on this idea as we build and test the early versions. We will soon deploy this task to more Wikipedias as a test.
"Add a link" and "Add an image" now both have a limitation on how many of these tasks newcomers can do per day. It is meant to discourage careless newcomers from making too many problematic edits.
Positive reinforcement
Over the last two years, the Growth team has focused on building suggested edits: easy tasks for newcomers to start with. We have learned with this experience that these tasks help many newcomers to make their first edits. Now, the team is starting a new project : "positive reinforcement". Its goal is to make newcomers proud of their editing and to make them want to come back for more of them. With the positive reinforcement project, we are considering three kinds of features:
- Impact stats: give newcomers the ability to see how many people read the articles they edit.
- Leveling up: encourage newcomers to progress from easier tasks to harder tasks.
- Personalized praise: encourage mentors and other editors to "thank" and award newcomers for good work.
This project is just beginning, and we hope for community thoughts on the direction. We know that things can wrong if we offer the wrong incentives to newcomers, so we want to be careful. Please visit the talk page to help guide the project!
News for mentors
- The mentor dashboard is available at all wikis. It helps mentors see who their mentees are and keep track of their activity. It is automatically activated where a list of mentors has been created. If you need assistance to create a list of mentors, please contact us.
- The mentor dashboard has a new module: settings. It is now possible for mentors to define their status (active or away). They can specify the volume of questions they want to receive, and they can claim mentees in an easier way. It is also possible for mentors to quit, which will automatically reassign their mentees to other mentors.
- We are working on an ability for a mentee to opt-out (and back in) to having a mentor.
- Previously, in the table that displays mentees activity, the filters displayed all mentees, even the ones with zero edits or lots of edits. We have changed this so that only mentees with between 1 and 500 edits are visible by default. Mentors can change this value in their filters.
- We are currently working on a special page for mentors to sign-up.
Some wikis have created userboxes that mentors can display on the user pages. If your wiki has one, please link it to Wikidata!
Scaling
Previously, at most Wikipedias, only 80% of newcomers were getting the Growth features. This was done for experimentation, to have a control group. We have changed this setting. Now 100% of new accounts at all Wikipedias get the Growth features (except a few, kept as test wikis). We invite communities to update their onboarding documentation and tutorials. Please include the Growth features in it. To help you, we have created an help page that can be translated and adapted to your wiki.
How to help
Do you have questions about the Growth features? This translatable FAQ contains answers to the most common questions about the Growth team work. We regularly update it.
Interface translations are important for newcomers. Please help for your language, by translating or copyediting interface translations for the Growth features.
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18:12, 16. mart 2022. (CET)
Pogledaj...
... i proveri ovu izmenu i ovu i ovu. Uredno su d0stavljena odobrenja. Hvala,— Vanilica (razgovor) 20:12, 12. maj 2022. (CEST)
- Što se tiče Doma Stamnica, dozvola poslata za ostale slike iz te grupe (#2022040610003741) ne navodi eksplicitno ove 4 fotografije (samo od 1 do 11, i to bez 5). Što se tiče Miroslava Arsića, pronalazim taj tiket preko mejla, ali mi OTRS ne da da ga otvorim (moguće da ga je neko obrisao iz nekog razloga...), tako da je najbolje da se dozvola ponovo pošalje za sve te fotografije. Što se tiče Jelene Đurić, ne vidim da je ikad stigla dozvola za te 4 fotografije. Inače, kada ljudi sa kojima radiš ili ti šaljete slike na Ostavu, u poslednje vreme vidim da stavljate OTRS pending šablon na 3 mesta! To mi otežava rad i nakon evidentiranja dozvole moram da dodatno menjam sliku da bih uklonio te dodatne reference, tako da je dovoljno taj šablon staviti samo jednom. F± 18:37, 13. maj 2022. (CEST)
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Zdravo, Filipe. Moje ime je Nađa Stanković. Rođena sam 24. 04 1987. godine u Mojkovcu, Crna Gora (tačnije u jednom selu koje se zove Polja, gdje i živim). Veliki sam zaljubljenik u istoriju, (posebno arheologiju), književnost, slikarstvo i muziku, pa i sama po malo pišem i slikam. Prema datumu tvog rođenja vidim da smo vršnjaci, tako da mi to olakšava pisanje. Ja tek od skoro po nekad uđem da objavim po nešto na vikipediji, jer još uvijek učim kako se to radi, a i baš ne stižem zbog drugih obaveza (znaš kako je na selu). Ako si zainteresovan za razmjenu mišljenja i razgovor o temama sa vikipedije, potraži me na fejsbuku pod mojim pravim imenom-Nadja Stankovic. Ratni Grejmon1 (razgovor) 20:54, 21. maj 2022. (CEST) |
Patroliranje
Pozdrav Fićo,
Zanima me par stvari što se tiče patroliranja, s obzirom da vidim da si ti patrolirao te izmene koje su korisnici napravili.
- Što se tiče izmene za članak FAP 4G ja sam pokušavao da nađem i nisam uspeo naći NIGDE podatak do kad se taj FAP proizvodio. Zar ne bi te izmene trebali da poništavamo ako nema nikakve reference s obzirom da postoji već određena godina (za koju isto tako ne postoji referenca) ?
- Što se tiče izmena koje je NN napravio, lično sam ga pitao na njegovoj stranici za razgovor da li je ovo nešto novo jer onda bi trebali da menjamo za sve datume i za sve osobe.
Ajde molim te mi javi šta se dešava da bi znao ubuduće kako da patroliram.
Hvala ti
Pozdrav
Boki Piši mi ↔️ Moji doprinosi 21:39, 2. jun 2022. (CEST)
Rasprava za sticanje statusa dobrog članka
Članak Buč Kasidi i Sandens Kid je stavljen na raspravu za sticanje statusa dobrog članka. Pozivam te da, ukoliko želiš, prokomentarišeš članak i eventualno izneseš primedbe. Hvala. — Uroš (razgovor) 01:04, 7. jun 2022. (CEST)
- Mislim da bi trbebalo da mi se izviniš na istom mestu gde si napisao neistinu. Nisam ja premestio to, već admin Ranko, a ja sam samo po pravilima premestio linkove ka koje vode na preusmerenu stranicu. Ovo nije fer više. Pogledaj takođe izmene Blago Zadro i reci da li je fer da mi neko lepi dva puta šablon prevod a potom da odredi za brisanje članak koji je preveden na 11 jezika. — Ničim neizazvan (razgovor) 22:17, 11. jun 2022. (CEST)
Poziv za učešće u raspravi povodom standardizacije prve rečenice
Poštovanje, kolega! Pozivam te da učestvuješ u raspravi povodom standardizacije prve rečenice. Doista bi mi mnogo značilo tvoje mišljenje i opaske, a i krajnje je vreme da se usaglasimo oko ovog pitanja. — Aca (razgovor) 22:03, 22. jun 2022. (CEST)
Početnički članak
Pozdrav Filipe, napravio sam stranicu Dipfejk i nalepljen i je početnički članak ako mogu samo da saznam šta je potrbno još da se doradi? Gudzula571 (razgovor) 10:51, 25. jun 2022. (CEST)
- Deluje mi mnogo bolje članak nego što je bio. Samo možda da eliminišeš suvišne prorede između pasusa... F± 22:02, 25. jun 2022. (CEST)
- Pozdrav! Odradio sam razmake, kada budete mogli pogledajte. Hvala na informaciji. Gudzula571 (razgovor) 11:40, 26. jun 2022. (CEST)
- Evo, uklonio sam šablon. F± 22:25, 26. jun 2022. (CEST)
- Zahvaljujem, pozdrav! Gudzula571 (razgovor) 10:54, 27. jun 2022. (CEST)
- Evo, uklonio sam šablon. F± 22:25, 26. jun 2022. (CEST)
- Pozdrav! Odradio sam razmake, kada budete mogli pogledajte. Hvala na informaciji. Gudzula571 (razgovor) 11:40, 26. jun 2022. (CEST)
Growth team newsletter #21
Welcome to the twenty-first newsletter from the Growth team!
New project: Positive reinforcement
- The Growth team started a new project: Positive reinforcement. We want newcomers to understand there is an interest in regularly editing Wikipedia, and we want to improve new editor retention.
- We asked users from Arabic, Bangla, Czech and French Wikipedia about their feedback. Some people participated at mediawiki.org as well.
- We summarized the initial feedback gathered from these community discussions, along with how we plan to iterate based on that feedback.
- The first Positive Reinforcement idea is a redesign of the impact module: incorporating stats, graphs, and other contribution information. This idea received the widest support, and we plan to start our work based on the design illustrated on the side.
- Please let us know what you think of this project, in any language.
For mentors
- We have worked on two new features, to inform them about the mentorship:
Scaling
- "Add a link" available at more wikis ― Add a link feature has been deployed to more wikis: Catalan Wikipedia, Hebrew Wikipedia, Hindi Wikipedia, Korean Wikipedia, Norwegian Bokmål Wikipedia, Portuguese Wikipedia, Simple English Wikipedia, Swedish Wikipedia, Ukrainian Wikipedia, Abkhazian Wikipedia, Achinese Wikipedia, Adyghe Wikipedia, Afrikaans Wikipedia, Akan Wikipedia, Alemannisch Wikipedia, Amharic Wikipedia, Aragonese Wikipedia, Old English Wikipedia, Syriac Wikipedia, Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia, Asturian Wikipedia, Atikamekw Wikipedia, Avaric Wikipedia, Aymara Wikipedia, Azerbaijani Wikipedia, South Azerbaijani Wikipedia. This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure locally how this feature works.
- "Add an image" available at more wikis ― Add an image feature will be deployed to more wikis: Greek Wikipedia, Indonesian Wikipedia, Polish Wikipedia, Chinese Wikipedia. These communities will be able to configure locally how this feature works. [6]
Suggested edits
- Selecting topics ― We have created an "AND" filter to the list of topics at Special:Homepage. This way, newcomers can decide to select very specific topics ("Transportation" AND "Asia") or to have a broader selection ("Transportation" OR "Asia"). At the moment this feature is tested at pilot wikis.
- Changes for Add a link ― We have built several improvements that came from community discussion and from data analysis. They will be available soon at the wikis.
- Algorithm improvements ― The algorithm now avoids recommending links in sections that usually don't have links and for first names. Also, it now limits each article to only having three link suggestions by default (limited to the highest accuracy suggestions of all the available ones in the article).
- User experience improvements ― We added a confirmation dialog when a user exits out of suggestion mode prior to making changes. We also improved post-edit dialog experience and allow newcomers to browse through task suggestions from the post-edit dialog.
- Community configuration ― We allow communities to set a maximum number of links per article via Special:EditGrowthConfig.
- Future change for Add a link feature ― We will suggest underlinked articles in priority. [7]
- Patrolling suggested edits ― Some users at Arabic Wikipedia, Spanish Wikipedia, and Russian Wikipedia told us that "Add a link" and "Add an image" edits can be challenging to patrol. We are now brainstorming improvements to help address this challenge. We have already some ideas and we started some work to address this challenge. If you have any thoughts to add about the challenges of reviewing these tasks or how we should improve these tasks further, please let us know, in any language.
Community configuration
Communities can configure how the features work, using Special:EditGrowthConfig.
- Communities can set the maximum number of "add an image" suggested tasks a newcomer can complete daily. [8]
- Future change: allow communities to customize the "add a link" quality gate threshold easily, using Special:EditGrowthConfig. [9]
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15:03, 5. jul 2022. (CEST)
Molba/zahtev
Sori što te smaram na ovim vrućinama, ali jel bi mogao pliz da pogledaš ovu raspravu ovde i daš svoj sud. Cimam jer od dva administratora koja su se uključila u raspravu, jedan nije hteo da se uključuje u daljnju raspravu po izlasku dodatnog prljavog veša na videlo, a drugi daje protivrečne izjave, premišlja se u svakom komentaru. Tako da potonji stav nisam mogao da shvatim ako definitivni. Ako te ne smara pliz pogledaj, reci šta imaš i zaključi. I mene smara da se ovo razvlači. — Ivan VA (razgovor) 13:17, 24. jul 2022. (CEST)
- Stranica kolege kao i svih administratora zbog nekoliko korisnika sklonih vandalizmu mi je na nadgledanju; samo kratko - tri administratora i jedan stariji korisnik su jasno istovjetno odgovorili, čini se da korisnik nije zadovoljan odgovorom pa traži pravdu kod starijih kolega koje zna od ranije, što je već viđeno a može se lako tumačiti na više negativnih načina, posebno uzevši u obzir njegov ton, način obraćanja i praktično neprihvatanje dvije zvanične opomena administratora. Svakako podržavam konstruktivan odgovor kolega. Lp. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 17:15, 24. jul 2022. (CEST)
- Mnogo ste se raspisali tamo, trebaće mi neko vreme da sustignem raspravu. Trenutno sam na samom početku (komentari od pre 20 časova). Ako budem imao komentara, ostaviću ih (kao i za većinu aktivnih diskusija, koje stignem da ispratim u realnom vremenu). — F± 23:03, 24. jul 2022. (CEST)
Pelješački most
Stranica Pelješki most je nedavno preimenovana bez ikakve diskusije. Jedino objašnjenje Korisnik:Bytens je da Nitko ne kaže "Pelješački" (https://nova.rs/svet/neverovatni-prizori-novog-hrvatskog-cuda-iz-drona-video) - moguća promocija. Molim Vas da pogledate Razgovor:Pelješki most, pošto ste Vi poništili vraćanje na prethodni, srpski naziv. Ima mnogo srpskih izvora u kojima se naziva Pelješački most, i bez diskusije ne bi trebalo prihvatiti hrvatki naziv, koji se uostalom pominje u tekstu. Eventualno zaključati stranicu do daljega. Dinara2015 (razgovor) 02:15, 31. jul 2022. (CEST)
- Pa daj te srpske izvore u kojima se kaže Pelješački most. Mnogo se o njemu pisalo poslednjih dana u štampi i ja nigde nisam video da piše Pelješački, samo Pelješki. Kakva promocija pobogu? Pridev je takav kakav je i ne možeš ti sada na silu da guraš i promovišeš neku svoju veštačku varijantu samo zato da bi se razlikovalo od hrvatskog jezika. Bytens (razgovor) 18:52, 3. avgust 2022. (CEST)
Intervencija u kodu
Hvala lijepo Filipe! Sp. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 03:03, 11. avgust 2022. (CEST)
Pozivnica za učešće u takmičenju
Zdravo! Želeli smo da ti skrenemo pažnju da je u toku takmičenje na temu zlatnih filmova, koje ima za cilj poboljšanje članaka na temu nekih od najboljih ostvarenja iz istorije kinematografija i kreiranje kvalitetnih članaka na temu od prvog reda relevantnosti za našu enciklopediju. Pomislili smo da bi mogao biti zainteresovan za ovu temu, pa te pozivamo da nam se pridružiš. Napravi neki novi članak ili poboljšajte postojeći. U slučaju da želiš da nam se pridružiš, upiši se ovde. |
— Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 00:44, 8. septembar 2022. (CEST)
Growth team newsletter #22
Welcome to the twenty-second newsletter from the Growth team!
Newcomers tasks reach the 500,000 edits milestone — more data publicly available
As of the last week of June 2022, the newcomers of the world have completed over 500,000 newcomer tasks. In other words, newcomers have made over half a million Wikipedia edits via Growth’s “Suggested Edits” module.
- About 30% of those edits were completed on mobile devices.
- Usage continues to increase; in June 2022 almost 50,000 newcomer tasks were completed.
We have added some new data to Grafana. You can now check the number of edits and reverts by task types, or the number of questions asked to mentors. You can filter the data by wiki.
If you have any questions, or there is more data you want access to, please let us know.
Ongoing projects and explorations
We are continuing our work on our new project, Positive Reinforcement. User testing of initial Positive Reinforcement designs was just completed. Interviews were conducted in Arabic, English, and Spanish. The outcome has been published on the Positive Reinforcement page. We are now utilizing user testing feedback along with prior community feedback to iterate and improve designs.
We are exploring the idea of a Copy Edit structured task. We have tested copy edits in Wikipedia articles for arwiki, bnwiki, cswiki, eswiki (Growth pilot-wikis) and enwiki with two different methods: LanguageTool and Hunspell. We will share more details here and on the associated Copy Edit page once the evaluation is complete.
Add an image was utilized at GLAM events in Argentina, Mexico, and Chile. For an overview of what was learned from these events, read: #1Pic1Article I: how Latin American heritage experts added images to Wikipedia (in English).
Experiments analysis
Add a Link Experiment Analysis has been published. The most important points are:
- Newcomers who get the Add a Link structured task are more likely to be activated (i.e. make a constructive first article edit).
- They are also more likely to be retained (i.e. come back and make another constructive article edit on a different day).
- The feature also increases edit volume (i.e. the number of constructive edits made across the first couple weeks), while at the same time improving edit quality (i.e. the likelihood that the newcomer's edits aren't reverted).
Newcomer task edit type analysis has been published.
- Communities had expressed concern that newcomers whose initial edits were structured tasks wouldn’t go on to learn how to complete more difficult tasks. The Growth team data scientist conducted a Newcomer task edit type analysis to see if this was indeed the case.
- Results from analysis indicate that this likely isn’t a significant concern. More than 70% of users who start with the easy task "Add a link" also make another task type. Read the full analysis and methodology here.
News for mentors
A new system for the mentors list
The configuration of the mentors list will change over the next weeks. In the future, mentors will sign up, edit their mentor description and quit using Special:MentorDashboard. This new system will make the development of new features for mentors much easier.
At the moment, the mentor list is a simple page anyone can edit, unless it’s protected. With the new page, mentors will be able to edit only their own description, while administrators will be able to edit the entire mentors' list if needed.
The deployment will happen first at the pilot wikis, then at all wikis. Existing lists of mentors will be automatically converted, no action will be needed from the mentors. [10][11]
Mentors will be informed about the next steps soon, by a message posted on the talk page of existing Mentor lists.
Learn more about this new structured page on mediawiki.org.
A tip for mentors
Did you know that mentors can filter their mentees' changes at Special:MentorDashboard (and star the ones that require attention)? This feature helps to keep an eye on newcomers' edits, helping mentors to fix minor details, and encourage them if necessary.
And did you know that mentors have special filters to highlight their mentees' edits at Special:RecentChanges? Look for the following filters in RecentChanges: Your starred mentees, Your unstarred mentees.
Other improvements
Some improvements will be made to the mentor dashboard in the coming weeks:
- While we now offer some options for mentors to take a break, the option to quit mentoring was not easy to find. This will be improved. [12]
- Mentors at wikis using FlaggedRevisions will have a way to discover their mentees' pending edits. [13]
- Dashboard discovery for new mentors will be improved. [14]
Recent changes and fixed bugs
- We moved to a new Image Suggestions API. This new API will allow us to deploy Add an Image to more wikis. [15]
- Starting September 19, a few more wikis now offer Add an image to newcomers. These wikis are Vikipedija na grčkom jeziku, Vikipedija na poljskom jeziku, Vikipedija na kineskom jeziku, Vikipedija na indonežanskom jeziku, Vikipedija na rumunskom jeziku. [16]
- Add an image has been disabled for a few days due to technical issue. "Add an image" added a blank line instead of an image. This has been fixed. [17]
- In order to know if Special:EditGrowthConfig is used by communities, we now instrument page loads and saves of configuration. [18]
Have a question? A suggestion?
Please let us know! You can also read our FAQ page.
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19:18, 21. septembar 2022. (CEST)
FelixBot/izmene/1
Zdravo Filipe, zanima me da li postoji mogućnost da nam bot generiše ukupnu listu izmjena koja ne obuhvata penzionisane botove uračunate među ostale urednike? Pp. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 02:53, 29. septembar 2022. (CEST)
- Pa teorijski može, ali onda se ta lista "penzionisanih" mora ručno održavati, što je ružno... ili definisati nekako. Mislim da je više fer da se vidi sve, ili možda posebno označe korisnici koji nisu napravili izmenu u poslednjih H godina, pa da se vizuelno lakše može razaznati penzionisani od radnog. — F± 22:36, 29. septembar 2022. (CEST)
Slučajno sam primjetio vaš razgovor, pa rekoh da se umiješam. Moj prijedlog je da se posebno istaknu obični urednici, možda kroz korisnička pravo kao što je autopatrolersko, kao što su sad botovi istaknuti, sa posebnom rednom kolonom. — Ranko Nikolić (razgovor) 00:52, 30. septembar 2022. (CEST)
- To možda ima najviše smisla, hvala na sugestiji. — F± 23:22, 30. septembar 2022. (CEST)
- Evo, @Sadko & @Ranko Nikolić, stigao sam ovo da odradim: Korisnik:FelixBot/izmene/1. Kako vam deluje? F± 21:04, 25. oktobar 2022. (CEST)
- Izvrsno, hvala puno Filipe. Da li bi bilo okej da centriramo spisak? Više je stilska intervencija, ovako ostaje dosta praznog prostora sa lijeve strane, posebno na monitorima veće inčaže. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 🖋️ 22:46, 25. oktobar 2022. (CEST)
- Pa svi spiskovi koje Feliks generiše su ovog stila, tako da bi imalo smisla ili menjati sve ili ne menjati ništa. Meni se nekako više sviđa ovako levo. :) — F± 22:54, 25. oktobar 2022. (CEST)
- Izvrsno, hvala puno Filipe. Da li bi bilo okej da centriramo spisak? Više je stilska intervencija, ovako ostaje dosta praznog prostora sa lijeve strane, posebno na monitorima veće inčaže. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 🖋️ 22:46, 25. oktobar 2022. (CEST)
- Evo, @Sadko & @Ranko Nikolić, stigao sam ovo da odradim: Korisnik:FelixBot/izmene/1. Kako vam deluje? F± 21:04, 25. oktobar 2022. (CEST)
Pitanja
- Ćao, možeš mi reći/pokazati kako ide kod za fiksiranje korisničke kutijice na desnu/lijevu stranu? Htio bih moju novokreiranu pod izmjene da prebacim sa trenutne lijeve na desnu.
- Imaš li ideja kako da fiksiramo segmente naslovne kako bi bili pod liniju? Ranije smo razgovarali na tu temu i volio bih da do NG konkretizujemo plan djelovanja i tu bih rado preuzeo dio projekta i rada na sebe.
- Može li se kod nas trajno ukloniti prikazivanje teksta S Vikipedije, slobodne enciklopedije ispod naziva stranica? Pp.
— Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 17:35, 19. oktobar 2022. (CEST)
- Zdravo @Sadko:. Sori, tek sad sam stigao da se pozabavim ovim:
- Sredio sam.
- Misliš da recimo Sjajan članak i Vesti budu iste visine, i tako svaki od tri para "kutijica"? Ili misliš da leve tri kutijice budu u ravni (istoj visini) kao i desne tri? To nije baš lako postići, mada verovatno može.
- Uradio sam to izmenom Medijaviki:Tagline. Mada, nisam siguran da imamo dogovor oko toga, pa možda treba tu izmenu vratiti, pa prodiskutovati sa zajednicom na Trgu o tome, pa onda reagovati u skladu sa dogovorom?
Pozdrav — F± 21:02, 25. oktobar 2022. (CEST)
- Nikakav problem. Da, ideja mi je da kutijice sa lijeve i desne strane budu pod crtu jedna sa drugom, kao što je slučaj na mnogim drugim projektima. Mišljenja sam da nam ta promjena nedosta pa da imamo jednu od najljepših i najurednijih naslovnih stranica - globalno gledano. Tu će se neminovno pojaviti problem nedostatka ili viška materijala u zadatom okviru što bismo rješavali zajedničkim snagama. Ukoliko je moguće, bilo bi značajno da nam, kada budeš bio u mogućnosti, uradiš demo verziju primjera i da stavim(o) na raspravi a potom i glasanje dvije varijante. Ne bih sistematske promjene lomio ni preko tvog ili mog koljena. Trenutna situacija je takva da jedan do dva urednika i ja doslovce svaki dan skraćujemo ili dopunjujemo sadržaj kutijica sa lijeve strane kako niti jedna strana ne bi previše štrčala po ukupnog dužini, što je dugoročno teško održivo.
- Hvala lijepo za intervenciju.
- Meni je ovako daleko bolje ali imaš poentu, tako da ću postaviti pitanje na Trgu, da vidimo šta urednički auditorijum misli i smatra. Pp. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 🖋️ 22:42, 25. oktobar 2022. (CEST)
Update
Ćao
Jel znaš možda šta se dešava sa xtools ? Izgleda da nešto koči pa ne rade ažuriranje odmah. Tim povodom sam hteo da te pitam ako ti možda znaš nešto u vezi toga.
Pozdrav Boki Piši ↔️ Čitaj 00:15, 27. oktobar 2022. (CEST)
- Ne bih znao, slabo posećujem taj alat u poslednje vreme. Moguće da samo kasni replikacija na VMF Labsu. — F± 22:59, 27. oktobar 2022. (CEST)
Zdravo
Zbog čega se moje dopune smatraju neispravnim? (međumreža, smrtnost, rodnost, itd.)? Margeshau (razgovor) 18:59, 28. oktobar 2022. (CEST)
Growth team newsletter #23
Welcome to the twenty-third newsletter from the Growth team!
Highlights
- Mentorship: We released the new structured mentor list to all wikis. This change makes mentorship easier to setup, manage and use.
- Positive reinforcement: An improved impact module is available for testing.
Positive reinforcement: an improved impact module to test
The goal of the Growth team is to encourage newcomers to try editing for the first time, and encourage them to keep editing. We want to increase newcomers' motivation by showing them how impactful their edits are.
Newcomers have access to an impact module; you can find yours at Special:Impact. The revised impact module provides new editors with more context about their impact. It will display the number of edits, the number of thanks received, the last time they edited, the number of consecutive days they edited, and the number of views for the articles they edited.
This module will soon be available at our pilot wikis starting December 1. You can already test this new module at Beta Wikipedia. For safety reasons, do not use your regular account and password at Beta wiki. Create a new, specific account for this wiki, with a different password.
Structured tasks: improvements based on patroller feedback
After the deployment of Structured tasks, we received feedback from various communities regarding how patrollers of recent changes were feeling overwhelmed by an increase in edits to check, and how some edits were poor quality or of poor relevance.
We made several improvements based on the feedback we received. Several points of improvement have already been addressed:
- Patroller fatigue:
- By default, newcomers can complete up to 25 "add a link" tasks and 25 "add an image" tasks per day. If patrollers are overburdened, each community can use Special:EditGrowthConfig to lower that limit.
- Quality of edits: what constitutes a "quality edit" is not a well defined concept. We initiated a discussion and summarized our findings. We also worked on the following improvements:
- Add a Link
- Underlinked articles are now prioritized, so it's less likely that newcomers are adding links to articles that are already have a lot of links.
- The confidence score was increased, so suggestions are more likely to be accurate.
- The default number of suggested links per article has been lowered to 3. This can be changed at Special:EditGrowthConfig. Communities can also exclude articles containing certain templates or categories from being suggested.
- Add an Image
- Lists will no longer receive "add an image" suggestions.
- Disambiguation pages will no longer receive "add an image" suggestions.
- We have many further improvements we plan to make to "add an image" in early 2023. [19]
- Add a Link
The Positive Reinforcement project will also address some of the concerns around encouraging newcomers to progress to higher value edits. The Growth team will soon work on strategies geared at "Leveling up" newcomers so they progress from easy to more difficult tasks.
Recent changes
- All Wikipedias now have the same onboarding experience. Previously, at a few wikis, 20% of new accounts didn't get the Growth features when they created their account. These 20% of new accounts were used as a control group, in order to know if the Growth features were changing newcomers' behavior. Experiments have shown that Growth features improve activation and retention, and as we want to provide the same onboarding experience at all Wikipedias, we have decided to remove the control groups. We will utilize control groups when testing new features, and German Wikipedia keeps a control group at their request. [20]
- The quality score for "add a link" suggestions will change. We will suggest less links for each article, but they will be more accurate. We will first deploy it at our pilot wikis, and then to all other wikis where this feature is available. [21][22]
- Growth's features FAQ has been updated and expanded. This page centralizes all the information about Growth features. We invite you to read it, and, if you can, to translate it.
News for mentors
- All Wikipedias can now setup and manage a mentorship program in an easier way.
- We changed the process to make it more reliable, easier to improve and easier to use.
- Wikipedias where mentorship hasn't been enabled yet can turn mentorship on following a new process. When done, mentors can sign-up by visiting
Special:MentorDashboard
. - Wikipedias where the list of mentors already existed have been converted to the new system.
- A new special page —
Special:ManageMentors
— now displays the list of mentors. This page can be transcluded on any other page. There are also new processes to signup as a mentor or to quit mentorship, and we improved community mentorship management.
- The Mentor dashboard's "Your mentees" module will have a new footer, called "Recent changes by your mentees". This footer will include a link to Recent changes, where mentors can see only edits made by their own mentees. [23]
Deployments
- Add a link has been deployed to a 5th round of wikis. [24]
Improving this newsletter
We plan to have a more regular newsletter, every two months. We also want to know if the current format suits you! Let us know what you like, what you like less and your suggestions of improvements: leave us a comment, in your preferred language.
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21:58, 29. novembar 2022. (CET)
Nove infokutije
Poštovani Filipe Miljkoviću,
Šta mislite o mojim novim Infokutijama o Kenetu Mapu i Američkim Devičanskim Ostrvima?
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— Kenneth Mapp (razgovor) 19:05, 15. decembar 2022. (CET)
- Ništa im ne fali :) — F± 21:55, 15. decembar 2022. (CET)
Taglajn
Pozdrav. Ne znam da li si video, ali pomenut si ovde. Ranije sam i lično ukazao na ovu grešku (primer). — HoneymoonAve27 (razgovor) 00:20, 25. decembar 2022. (CET)
- Uradio sam to po molbi Sadkoa, tako da vidi sa njim. Kako sam shvatio, samo na jednom skinu to pravi problem... tako da možda treba malo revidirati CSS tog skina. — F± 12:32, 25. decembar 2022. (CET)
- Nije problem da se vrati, ukoliko bi insistirale kolege.
- Mislim da ne dobijamo ništa vraćanjem, jasno je na kome je čovjek sajtu, pošto već ne posjedujemo opciju individualnog isključenja natpisa, kao što sam napravio na en.vp.
- Takav problem kod mene ne postoji. Pristupam VP sa 4-5 uređaja. Niti je bilo dodatnih žalbi. Vjerujem da će se doradom CSS-a skina stvari rješiti, samo polako. — Sadko (razgovarajmo) 12:39, 25. decembar 2022. (CET)
- I dalje mi nije jasno kako je to uopšte moguće. Probao sam preko dva uređaja (svog Vindousa i dodatno preko Mekbuka) i problem se javlja u oba slučaja. Urednik Milicevic01 takođe ukazuje na grešku. — HoneymoonAve27 (razgovor) 14:12, 25. decembar 2022. (CET)
Ipak je problem sa oba Vektora Datoteka:Screenshot 20221226-012851.png Datoteka:Screenshot 20221226-012810.png
— Milićević (razgovor) 01:36, 26. decembar 2022. (CET)
- Napravio sam neke izmene na CSS-ovima, samo se ne vide izmene odmah. Verovatno će kad prođe malo vremena. — F± 22:07, 26. decembar 2022. (CET)
- Vektor 2010 u redu, Vektoru 2022 treba "štelovanje" Datoteka:Screenshot 20221227-004038.png — Milićević (razgovor) 00:44, 27. decembar 2022. (CET)
- Pa to u Kroumu. U Fajerfoksu je OK. Čudno. — F± 22:57, 28. decembar 2022. (CET)
- Na kompjuteru mi je Ivanjica (Vector 2022) u redu a članak Novi Sad nije, Firefox, a na telefonu kontra — Milićević (razgovor) 23:03, 28. decembar 2022. (CET)
- Pa to u Kroumu. U Fajerfoksu je OK. Čudno. — F± 22:57, 28. decembar 2022. (CET)
- Vektor 2010 u redu, Vektoru 2022 treba "štelovanje" Datoteka:Screenshot 20221227-004038.png — Milićević (razgovor) 00:44, 27. decembar 2022. (CET)
Ne znam dali si video na Ostavi su napravili alat za pojednostavljeno davanje dozvole za slike i sl. Ja sam se potrudio i preveo ga. U praksi to znači da sad dozvole može da odobri i neko kome srpski jezik nije poznat samo ako je davalac dozvole pratio uputstva alata. Pozdrav i srećna nova godina :) — Milićević (razgovor) 11:27, 2. januar 2023. (CET)
Pitanje
Zdravo čovek, dobio sam poruku sledeće sadržine, pa kad budeš imao vremena, pogledaj u čemu je problem:
Hi! Sorry to write in English. I noticed that this ticket mention 14 photos but there seems to be uploaded 72 files that links to this permission. Can you remember this permission? — MGA73 (razgovor) 19:14, 27. januar 2023. (CET)
Hvala unapred, — Vanilica (razgovor) 19:39, 27. januar 2023. (CET)
- Pa da, dozvola je za slike od 1izlozba.jpg do 14izlozba.jpg, tako da ne znam na koje 72 slike misli. — F± 23:48, 27. januar 2023. (CET)
- Sorry about the late reply. See this search. — MGA73 (razgovor) 16:06, 28. avgust 2024. (CEST)
- Many of those are on srwiki only, and I didn't edit them, so as far as I'm concerned, those permissions are void. — F± 22:14, 28. avgust 2024. (CEST)
- Sorry about the late reply. See this search. — MGA73 (razgovor) 16:06, 28. avgust 2024. (CEST)
Spisak fajlova
Možda nisi vidio ovu poruku, a ako jesi da te podsjetim. — Ranko Nikolić (razgovor) 21:23, 27. januar 2023. (CET)
- Video sam, ali nisam još stigao da se pozabavim time. Javljam kad vidim šta je i popravim. — F± 23:45, 27. januar 2023. (CET)
Kod za bota
Treba u člancima pomoću replace.py da zamenim {{застава|САД}} u [[Сједињене Америчке Државе|САД]] i treba mi regex kod za bota da to izvedem — Milićević (razgovor) 16:48, 28. januar 2023. (CET)
- Probaj ovako:
(u'\{\{застава\|САД\}\}', u'\[\[Сједињене Америчке Државе\|САД\]\]'),
— F± 13:13, 29. januar 2023. (CET)- Snašao sam se u međuvremenu, svakako hvala pa ako zatreba javiću ti se — Milićević (razgovor) 20:39, 29. januar 2023. (CET)
Growth team newsletter #24
Welcome to the twenty-fourth newsletter from the Growth team!
Newcomer experience projects
The Growth team partnered with other WMF teams to conduct several experiments around increasing account creation and new editor retention. Results from four of these experiments are now available:
- Thank you pages & banners - Encourage donors to create accounts through thank you pages and banners.
- Marketing experiment - Run ads on-wiki and off-wiki to see how this impacts account activation.
- "Add an image" GLAM events - Host GLAM events that focus on using the "Add an image" tool.
- Welcome emails - Experiment sending welcome emails to newly created accounts.
Newcomer tasks
- Several communities suggested improving "add a link", by suggesting underlinked articles first. We released this change to Growth pilot wikis. We will review the data and collect feedback before considering releasing it to more wikis. [25]
- The deployment of the "add a link" to all Wikipedias is still in progress. Suggested links use a prediction model, which has to be trained. The deployments will resume after we finish training all models. [26]
Mentorship
- When someone wants to signup as a mentor, they are now informed if they don't meet the defined criteria. [27]
- Workshop hosts asked us to have workshop attendees assigned to them. They can soon use a custom URL parameter. This way, workshop hosts will continue mentoring the event's attendees after the workshop. It will be available in February. [28]
- Have you considered to help new editors on your wiki, by signing up to be a Mentor?
- Please visit Special:MentorDashboard to check on the conditions to be a mentor, and sign up.
- If your wiki does not have Mentorship enabled, consider setting it up. The Growth team can provide advice and assist as needed. Please ping Trizek (WMF) for assistance.
Other news
- In Special:SpecialPages, Growth experiments now have their own section. [29]
- This newsletter will have a new publication period, 6 times a year: January, March, May, July, September, November.
Translations
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15:44, 31. januar 2023. (CET)
Portal-portalbar
Zdravo kolega. Zajednica je skoro izglasala ukidanje forme portal i prelaženje na portalbar na svim člancima, izuzev kategorija. Da li tvoj bot može da obavi masovnu zamjenu? Potrebno je samo dodati bar pored portal i kod postaviti na samo dno članka, nakon kategorija. Nadam se da je izvodljivo kako trud i glasovi ne bi ostali samo na papiru. Lp. — Sadko (razgovarajmo) 18:55, 20. februar 2023. (CET)
- Moguće je izvršiti dodavanje teksta "bar" pored portal, ali promeniti mu mesto je već malo teže... — F± 00:19, 21. februar 2023. (CET)
- U redu. Šta misliš da nam je najbolje činiti? Prebacivanje na sami kraj članka bi nam sve rješilo, pošto su trenutno portali po starom uglavnom postavljeni iznad normativne kontrole. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 22:09, 23. februar 2023. (CET)
- Mislim da je najbolje za početak samo uraditi zamenu, a onda možemo razmišljati o spuštanju šablona na dno. — F± 22:19, 23. februar 2023. (CET)
- Može, pusti bota i javi kada je gotovo. Poslije ćemo sređivati gdje treba. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 16:06, 25. februar 2023. (CET)
- I u istoj turi za bota, potrebno je obrisati parametar boja u svim infokutijama, pošto je izlišan nakon uvođenja i standarizacije svih boja u infokutijama od strane zajednice. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 14:45, 1. mart 2023. (CET)
- Mislim da je najbolje za početak samo uraditi zamenu, a onda možemo razmišljati o spuštanju šablona na dno. — F± 22:19, 23. februar 2023. (CET)
- U redu. Šta misliš da nam je najbolje činiti? Prebacivanje na sami kraj članka bi nam sve rješilo, pošto su trenutno portali po starom uglavnom postavljeni iznad normativne kontrole. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 22:09, 23. februar 2023. (CET)
- Podsjećam te na ovu molbu. Hl. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 05:25, 9. maj 2023. (CEST)
- Znam, stoji mi na todo listi, ali mi je život vrlo zauzet u ovom trenutku da ne stižem time da se pozabavim. — F± 18:51, 9. maj 2023. (CEST)
- @Sadko: našao sam malo vremena i pripremio bota za prebacivanje iz Portal u Portal bar. Samo da potvrdim: da li je OK da taj šablon stoji na dnu članka, pod sledećim algoritmom: ako ima definisan DEFAULTSORT, onda neposredno iznad njega (jer se on odnosi na kategorije, pa da ga ne razdvaja od njih), ako nema definisan DEFAULTSORT, onda neposredno iznad svih kategorija, a ako nema nijednu kategoriju, onda skroz na dno članka. Meni ovo deluje skroz OK, ali reko da potvrdiš.
- Što se tiče normativne kontrole, ne mogu da nađem sada diskusiju, pa me molim te podseti. Ideja je beše bila da uzmem sve biografske članke i dodam normativnu kontrolu tamo gde nedostaje, je l' da? A gde on da stoji? Pre portal bara? A ako njega nema, onda po goreopisanom algoritmu portal bara (iznad difoltsorta, kategorija ili na kraju)? — F± 22:38, 19. decembar 2023. (CET)
- Za portal bar - da, tako je.
- Vezano za NK, možemo je komotno postaviti na sve članke na enciklopediji. Nebitno je da li sada ima podataka u bazi, ukoliko se pojave, mi smo već pripremili šablon i ostaje nam samo da pratimo nove članke. Ukoliko je sada tjesnac, možemo za prvu turu samo biografske članke. Normativna kontrola ide iznad DEFAULTSORT, prema onome što je zajednica usvojila, vidi Vikipedija:Stilski priručnik/Oblikovanje. Djeluje sve dobro osmišljeno. Radi dodatnog nivoa sigurnosti, označiću kolegu @Vux33: da pogleda još jednom. Hvala Fićo. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 00:21, 20. decembar 2023. (CET)
- Znam, stoji mi na todo listi, ali mi je život vrlo zauzet u ovom trenutku da ne stižem time da se pozabavim. — F± 18:51, 9. maj 2023. (CEST)
Sve je ok, i za portal bar i za normativnu kontrolu, da normativna bude iznad portala, a portali iznad defaultsorta i kategorija. -- Vux33 (razgovor) 07:38, 20. decembar 2023. (CET)
- Super, hvala obojici, puštam uskoro izmene za portal, a za NK ću nešto kasnije, verovatno sledeće nedelje. — F± 17:28, 20. decembar 2023. (CET)
- @Sadko: Evo, bot radi već 24 sata i tek je stigao do latiničnog V. Svakako radiće narednih dana i dodavaće šablon za NK u sve članke. — F± 22:18, 13. januar 2024. (CET)
- Uh, to samo govori koliko je bilo potrebe za takvom akcijom. Veliko hvala. Nadam se da imaš solarne panele. : ) — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 22:21, 13. januar 2024. (CET)
- @Sadko: Evo, bot radi već 24 sata i tek je stigao do latiničnog V. Svakako radiće narednih dana i dodavaće šablon za NK u sve članke. — F± 22:18, 13. januar 2024. (CET)
Slučajno sam sinoć vidio ovo. Da li se može promjeniti svuda slika_širina i veličina(_slike) u širina slike, a opis, naslov_slike, slika_opis u opis_slike- Da imamo svuda ujednačeno. Nekad ne znam šta je ispravno ako neko zaboravio da doda to u infokutiju. — Radun Balšić (razgovor) 06:06, 20. decembar 2023. (CET)
- Ovo nisam planirao raditi, moraš mi malo detaljnije razjasniti šta tačno želiš. Svakako je za potrebe šablona logičnije podesiti da prihvata sve varijante, pa kako god da se koristi, radiće. — F± 17:28, 20. decembar 2023. (CET)
Access on #wikipedia-fr-... channels (IRC)
Hi, I ask on #libera, they say that you can give me access on these channels. Since the migration from Freenodes to Libera we don't have access. I am admin on wikipedia.fr project and connected on these officials channels #wikipedia-fr-liverc #wikipedia-fr-admin #wikipedia-fr ; flag +f will be usefull to give op to other admins, so they will be able to help to moderate channels. Frakir (razgovor) 21:30, 11. mart 2023. (CET)
Fotografije Stevana Kragujevića
Molim te otprati prepisku i vidi o čemu se radi. Unapred hvala, — Vanilica (razgovor) 08:20, 19. mart 2023. (CET)
Jelena Begović
Poštovani Filipe,
Hvala Vam za preuzete postupke u vezi slike na Ostavi za ministarku nauke Jelenu Begović.
Pozdrav Vama i svim članovima Srpske Vikipedije i Vikimedije. Academician.NYAS (razgovor) 22:45, 28. mart 2023. (CEST)
Growth team newsletter #25
Welcome to the twenty-fifth newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations
Celebrations
Leveling up release
- We released Leveling up features to our pilot wikis on March 22 for an initial A/B test.
- In this test, we use post-edit dialogs (pop-ups shown after publishing an edit) and notifications to encourage new editors to try new types of newcomer-friendly suggested edits.
- We are closely monitoring the short term impact of this feature as well as the longer term effect on newcomer productivity and retention. If the experiment shows positive results, we will release this feature to more wikis.
5,000+ images added via the newcomer task in February
- In February 2023, 5,035 images were added via the newcomer “add an image” feature (on all wikis where available); 155 were reverted.
- Since the feature “add an image” was launched: 36,803 images have been added; 2,957 images were reverted.
Recent changes
- Add a link
- Community Ambassadors completed an initial evaluation that confirmed that prioritizing underlinked articles resulted in better article suggestions. We then evaluated the change on Growth pilot wikis, and results suggest that more newcomers are successfully completing the task and experiencing fewer reverts. We have now deployed the new prioritization model to all wikis with "add a link" enabled. [30][31]
- We continue the deployment of "add a link" to more wikis. These changes are regularly announced in Tech News. To know if newcomers at your wiki have access to this feature, please visit your Homepage.
- The Impact module was deployed on our pilot wikis, where we conducted an A/B test. We published initial findings, and a data scientist is now completing experiment analysis. [32]
- Donor Thank you page experiment – Donors land on a “thank you” page after donation, and that landing page now includes a call to action to try editing: Example Thank you page in French. This promising feature is tested at several Wikipedias (French Wikipedia, Italian Wikipedia, Japanese Wikipedia, Dutch Wikipedia, Swedish Wikipedia).
- Growth features are now the default experience on both test.wikipedia.org and test2.wikipedia.org. You can test our features there.
Upcoming work
- Add an image – We plan to offer section-level image suggestions as a structured task for newcomers.
- IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation – We will support this project for all Growth Team maintained products and extensions that may be affected by IP Masking. [36]
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15:10, 1. april 2023. (CEST)
Za blokadu — Milićević (razgovor) 23:07, 3. april 2023. (CEST)
- Blokiran. — F± 23:11, 3. april 2023. (CEST)
Preimenovanje peska
Kako je sve izvesnije preimenovanje peska zamolio bih te da mi napraviš sledeći spisak Korisnik:Korisničko ime/pesak pa bih ja to posle botom prebacio u Korisnik:Korisničko ime/novo ime. Spisak stavi u Korisnik:Milicevic01/BivsiPesak
Pozdrav — Milićević (razgovor) 14:49, 12. april 2023. (CEST)
Molim te vidi njegove izmene, isti onaj što je uređivao GSP — Milićević (razgovor) 13:02, 13. maj 2023. (CEST)
- Mislim da su sada sve izmene vraćene. — F± 13:05, 13. maj 2023. (CEST)
- Zahvaljujem, ako opet počne traži ću blokadu na admin tabli — Milićević (razgovor) 13:09, 13. maj 2023. (CEST)
Možete li molim Vas da mi kažete ko je korisnik MISCKEWITCH? To je očigledno bio neko ko nema pojma o pravilima Vikipedije. On je opsednut teniserkom Timosenom Milenković, i ponaša se kao budala. Vređao je korisnike Miljan Simonović, Milan Životić i Vas. Verovatno je Miljana pomešao sa Milanom, budući da ga je u uvredljivoj poruci nazvao "Milanče Simonoviću", mešajući Miljanovo prezime sa imenom Milan. Yosemite Marko (razgovor) 15:57, 18. maj 2023. (CEST)
- Nemam predstavu ko je to. — F± 22:01, 18. maj 2023. (CEST)
- Da li ste ikad pre gledali nešto što je on radio? Molim Vas da prelistate šta je sve radio taj korisnik Yosemite Marko (razgovor) 22:22, 18. maj 2023. (CEST)
- Taj korisnik nije imao izmena na ovoj Vikipediji već više od 4 godine. Ne vidim da je išta novo radio... — F± 22:24, 18. maj 2023. (CEST)
- Da li ste pronašli njegove uvrede? Yosemite Marko (razgovor) 22:27, 18. maj 2023. (CEST)
- Taj korisnik nije imao izmena na ovoj Vikipediji već više od 4 godine. Ne vidim da je išta novo radio... — F± 22:24, 18. maj 2023. (CEST)
- Da li ste ikad pre gledali nešto što je on radio? Molim Vas da prelistate šta je sve radio taj korisnik Yosemite Marko (razgovor) 22:22, 18. maj 2023. (CEST)
Undo edits
Hello dear Dungodung. You canceled my edits on the pages: "Švajcarski franak", "Britanska funta", "Ruska rublja". But in this case, the "Valute" template is displayed twice on the indicated pages. This error appears for articles that use the "Valute" and "Evropske valute" templates. This is the error I wanted to correct. Best regards, Edward. — Petrov Эduard (razgovor) 02:01, 20. maj 2023. (CEST)
- Hello, mr Dungodung. If I'm wrong, please write. If I'm right - then I will return the above articles to my edits. Best regards, Edward.— Petrov Эduard (razgovor) 19:41, 21. maj 2023. (CEST)
Growth team newsletter #26
Welcome to the twenty-sixth newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations
One million Suggested Edits
We passed the 1 million Suggested edits milestone in late April!
- The Suggested edits feature (AKA Newcomer tasks) increase newcomer activation by ~12%, which flows on through to increased retention. (source)
- Suggested edits increase the number of edits newcomers complete in their first two weeks and have a relatively low revert rate. (source)
- Suggested edits are available on all Wikipedia language editions.
- Newer Suggested edits, like Add a link and Add an image, aren’t yet deployed to all wikis, but these structured tasks further increase the probability that newcomers will make their first edit. (source)
Positive reinforcement
Positive reinforcement aims to encourage newcomers who have visited our homepage and tried Growth features to keep editing.
- The new Impact module was released to Growth pilot wikis in December 2022, and we are now scaling the feature to another ten wikis. [37]
- The Leveling up features are deployed at our pilot wikis.
- The Personalized praise features were deployed at our pilot wikis on May 24. Mentors at pilot wikis will start to receive notifications weekly when they have “praise-worthy” mentees. Mentors can configure their notification preferences or disable these notifications.
Add an image
- We are creating a new section-level variation of the “add an image” task. We have tested the accuracy of suggestions, and the development of this new task is well-underway. [38]
Other updates
- We are progressively releasing Add a link to more wikis. [39]
- After adding Thanks to Recent Changes, Watchlist and Special:Contributions, we investigated Thanks usage on the wikis. There is no evidence that thanks increased after the feature was added on more pages.
- We helped with code review for the 2023 Community Wish to add Notifications for user page edits. [40]
- We have been attending several community events, that we documented in our Growth’s Community events report.
What's next for Growth?
- We shared an overview of Growth annual planning ideas, and have started community discussion about these potential projects. We would love to hear your feedback on these ideas!
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17:14, 29. maj 2023. (CEST)
Portal bar & bot
Sadko me je pitao da li bot može da premesti šablon "portal bar" na dno članka, ja sam rekao da ne znam, pa otuda pitam tebe da li postoji način? — Milićević (razgovor) 11:53, 1. jun 2023. (CEST)
- Pa teoretski može, ali nije baš jednostavno. — F± 00:20, 2. jun 2023. (CEST)
- Vidi ima dosta članaka (100.000+), vrši posao i neko delimično (jednostavnije) rešenje da se broj bar smanji — Milićević (razgovor) 21:57, 3. jun 2023. (CEST)
- Još jednom ti se obraćam u nadi da mi možeš napisati regex kod za replace.py da premestim šablon {{Портал бар\|.*?}} na dno članaka, bot bi se referisao na sam šablon {{Portal bar}} ne bi išao kroz celu Vikipediju — Milićević (razgovor) 17:53, 16. jun 2023. (CEST)
- Nisam siguran da može da se napiše regeks koji će pokriti sve slučajeve i koji će uraditi šta treba. — F± 22:37, 16. jun 2023. (CEST)
Poziv za učešće u akciji pisanja članaka na temu Kosova i Metohije
Zdravo! Želeli smo da Vam skrenemo pažnju da je u toku Akcija pisanja članaka na temu Kosova i Metohije koja ima za cilj poboljšanje članaka o Kosovu i Metohiji na Vikipediji. Pomislili smo da ćete biti zainteresovani za ovu temu, pa Vas pozivamo da nam se pridružite. Napravite neki novi članak ili poboljšajte postojeći. U slučaju da želite da nam se pridržite, upišite se ovdje. |
— Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 18:48, 4. jun 2023. (CEST)
Neuroonkologija i anaplastični oligodendrogliom
Neuroonkologija i anaplastični oligodendrogliom sada su još bolji. — Wname1 (razgovor) 15:44, 27. jun 2023. (CEST)
Need your input on a policy impacting gadgets and UserJS
Dear interface administrator,
This is Samuel from the Security team and I hope my message finds you well.
There is an ongoing discussion on a proposed policy governing the use of external resources in gadgets and UserJS. The proposed Third-party resources policy aims at making the UserJS and Gadgets landscape a bit safer by encouraging best practices around external resources. After an initial non-public conversation with a small number of interface admins and staff, we've launched a much larger, public consultation to get a wider pool of feedback for improving the policy proposal. Based on the ideas received so far, the proposed policy now includes some of the risks related to user scripts and gadgets loading third-party resources, best practices for gadgets and UserJS developers, and exemptions requirements such as code transparency and inspectability.
As an interface administrator, your feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome until July 17, 2023 on the policy talk page.
Have a great day!Samuel (WMF), on behalf of the Foundation's Security team 14:08, 10. jul 2023. (CEST)
Rasprave i glasanje u toku
Zdravo kolega, nadam se da si dobro. Nekoliko rasprava i glasanja je u toku. Mislim da je posebno važno da se urednici sa administratorskim pravima oglase po pitanju rasprave odnosno glasanja koje se tiče uvođenja novih pravila i smjernice, koje nijesu bile urađene unazad nekoliko godina a važne su za rad urednika, posebno novajlija. Lp. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 17:45, 31. jul 2023. (CEST)
Growth team newsletter #27
Welcome to the twenty-seventh newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations
Annual plan for Growth
We shared our annual plan, for the period July 2023 - June 2024.
Our first project of the year will be Community configuration 2.0, which helps editors with extended rights transparently and easily configure important on-wiki functionality.
After we finish work on Community configuration 2.0, we will hope to fit in one of the following projects:
- Article creation: This project aims to provide new editors with better guidance and guardrails in the article creation process, with the intention of lightening the load of new page reviewers.
- Non-editing participation: This project aims to create low-risk ways for readers to participate in Wikipedia with the intention of funneling more readers into contributing to the Wikimedia movement.
Please let us know what you think about these projects on the related talk page, or Growth's annual plan talk page.
Suggested edits
We released a new Section-level “add an image” structured task to Growth pilot wikis (Arabic, Bengali, Czech, and Spanish). This task was part of the Structured Data Across Wikipedia project. We are monitoring the edits made, and we look for community feedback as well.
Suggested Edits are now receiving topic predictions via the new Language-Agnostic Topic Classification. This change affects non-English Wikipedia wikis. It will ensure newcomers receive a greater diversity of task recommendations. Before, as this feature was a test, English Wikipedia was used to select topics. The change is gradual as lists of topics are refreshed when they become empty. The Research team will evaluate the impact in a few months. [41]
Starting on August 1, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link": Georgian Wikipedia, Kara-Kalpak Wikipedia, Kabyle Wikipedia, Kabardian Wikipedia, Kabiyè Wikipedia, Kikuyu Wikipedia, Kazakh Wikipedia, Khmer Wikipedia, Kannada Wikipedia, Kashmiri Wikipedia, Colognian Wikipedia, Kurdish Wikipedia, Cornish Wikipedia, Cornish Wikipedia.
Mentorship
The Growth team provides dedicated features to establish a mentorship program for newcomers. Every newcomer gets a volunteer mentor who provides encouragement and answers questions. Communities can set up or join this mentorship system by visiting Special:ManageMentors. This mentorship system is configurable by the community at Special:EditGrowthConfig.
More communities have implemented mentorship. A Wikimedia Foundation data scientist will be looking at the impact of Mentorship. We will look at the impact on Spanish and English Wikipedia. [42]
The Growth team will also host a Mentoring new editors on Wikipedia session at Wikimania 2023 in Singapore. Workshop attendees will help brainstorm improvements to Growth’s mentorship features.
Positive reinforcement
We will share more complete experiment analysis for all the three parts of the Positive reinforcement project soon. At the moment, the new Impact module, Leveling up, and Personalized praise are still being A/B tested on the Growth team's pilot wikis.
In the meantime, initial leading indicators for the Personalized praise project have been published. Although this is still a relatively small sample, results seem healthy. They show that Mentors are indeed receiving notifications and clicking through to view their praise-worthy mentees.
Growth contributes to IP Editing migration
The Growth team is currently focusing on IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation. It is a project that touches many different Wikimedia Foundation teams. The Growth team will focus on temporary accounts through two main points:
- the user experience of a logged-out user, that switches to a temporary account,
- change Growth-owned extensions and features, so that they work as expected with temporary accounts. [43]
Community Configuration 2.0
We are still in the early planning stage of the Community Configuration 2.0 project:
- We are gathering internal Wikimedia Foundation teams' needs, so as community feedback. [44]
- We have started to investigate design improvements. [45]
- We are also reviewing similar tools that are part of other products. [46]
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14:42, 1. avgust 2023. (CEST)
Bot (tejk dva)
Pozdrav Filipe, vezano za problem premještanja koda za portal bar, koji imamo na jednom dijelu članaka, pitao sam jednog kolegu bot operatera sa EV za pomoć i on je načelno odgovorio kako da radimo. Da li možeš, kao iskusan kompjuteraš, da pomogneš Milićeviću da se bot upregne za naše novonastale potrebe? — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 20:45, 15. avgust 2023. (CEST)
- Hmm, nisam radio sa mwparserfromhell, a i sada sam van zemlje na putu, tako da trenutno nemam baš vremena za istraživanje toga :) — F± 16:11, 16. avgust 2023. (CEST)
Pitanje korisnika Gmazzz (22:10, 23. septembar 2023.)
Kako da postavim članak? --Gmazzz (razgovor) 22:10, 23. septembar 2023. (CEST)
- Pretraži Vikipediju terminom koji misliš da nedostaje, pa kada pretraga ne vrati rezultate, onda će ti biti ponuđeno da napraviš novi članak sa nazivom koji odgovara terminu pretrage. — F± 22:36, 23. septembar 2023. (CEST)
Growth team newsletter #28
Welcome to the twenty-eighth newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations
Community configuration 2.0
- Community Configuration 2.0 is a feature that will enable Wikimedia communities to easily customize and configure features to meet their unique needs. This approach provides non-technical moderators with more independence and control over enabling/disabling and customizing features for their communities.
- Technical approach and associated tasks are detailed in this Epic task on Phabricator.
- Initial designs are drafted for two different approaches (see images). We will soon demo interactive prototypes to interested admins, stewards, and experienced editors (T346109). Please let us know if you have feedback on the design approach, or want to participate in prototype testing.
IP Masking
- The Growth team has been working on several updates to ensure Growth maintained features will be compatible with future IP Masking changes. This work has included code changes to: Recent Changes (T343322), Echo notifications (T333531), the Thanks extension (T345679) and Mentorship (T341390).
- Before December, the Growth team will initiate community discussions with the goal of migrating communities from Flow to DiscussionTools. This move aims to minimize the necessity for additional engineering work to make Flow compatible with IP Masking. (T346108)
Mentorship
- We assembled some resources for mentors at Mediawiki wiki. This resource page is translatable and will be linked from the mentor dashboard.
- We are working to resolve a bug related to mentors properly returning after being marked as "Away". (T347024)
- Half of newcomers at English Wikipedia get a mentor assigned to them. To ensure every newcomer receives mentorship, we need additional volunteer mentors at English Wikipedia to achieve a 100% coverage rate. We also encourage experienced users from other wikis to help newcomers at their own community.
Scaling Growth features
- We continue the deployment of the structured task "add a link" to all Wikipedias. We plan to scale the task to all Wikipedias that have link suggestions available by the end of 2023.
- We plan to scale the new Impact Module to all Wikipedias soon, but first we are investigating a bug with the job that refreshes the Impact Module data. (T344428)
- At some wikis, newcomers have access to the "add an image" structured task. This task suggests images that may be relevant to add to unillustrated articles. Newcomers at these wikis can now add images to unillustrated articles sections. (T345940) The wikis that have this task are listed under "Images recommendations" at the Growth team deployment table.
Other news
- We disabled the “add an image” task temporarily (T345188) because there was a failure in the image suggestions pipeline (T345141). This is now fixed.
- You can read a report about the Growth team’s representation at Wikimania in Singapore here. Growth team members presented two sessions at Wikimania Singapore.
- After a 2.5 years-long collaboration with Bangala Wikipedia, we have decided to start a collaboration with another wiki. Swahili Wikipedia is now a pilot wiki for Growth experiments.
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Trizek_(WMF) Razgovor 01:16, 17. oktobar 2023. (CEST)
Pitanje korisnika Bogdan Babic (21:51, 27. oktobar 2023.)
Hvala za primer --Bogdan Babic (razgovor) 21:51, 27. oktobar 2023. (CEST)
Growth team newsletter #29
Welcome to the twenty-ninth newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations
Community Conversations
The Growth team will host its first community conversation Monday, 4 December (19:00 - 20:30 UTC). The topic for this meeting will be Mentorship.
This first meeting language will be English, but we plan to host conversations in other languages, and about other topics. Please visit the conversation page on-wiki for the details on how to join. You can also watch the page, or suggest ideas for upcoming conversations there.
Impact Module
At the beginning of November 2023, the Growth team deployed the New Impact Module to all Wikipedias. We recently released a follow up improvement to how edit data was displayed based on editor feedback. [47]
Add a Link
We released “add a link” to 35 more Wikipedias. [48] [49]
We have a few Wikipedias remaining:
- German and English Wikipedia will be contacted at the beginning of January 2024.
- There are a few small wikis that will not receive the task until they have enough articles for the algorithm to work properly.
Community Configuration
- We shared Community Configuration 2.0 plans with technical stakeholders. [50] 🖂
- Initial Community Configuration design ideas have been shared and discussed with community members.
- A basic Community Configuration 2.0 demo is released on ToolForge.
- Developers can find some initial proof of concept code shared on gitlab.
Mentorship
When a mentor marked themselves as "Away", they were not getting their name assigned to new accounts when they returned. This has been fixed. [51]
We improved the message received by newcomers when their mentor quits, to reduce confusion. [52]
We worked on ensuring that all mentees are assigned to an active mentor. This required reassigning mentees with no mentors to a new mentor. We paused this as the clean-up script confused some editors. We will resume it when the identified blockers are resolved. [53]
It is now possible to create an Abuse Filter to prevent one user from signing up as a mentor. [54]
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19:04, 1. decembar 2023. (CET)
Datumi u referencama
Da li bi sa botom mogao da središ datume u referencama u svim člancima koji se nalaze u kategoriji Kategorija:CS1 održavanje: Format datuma, tj. da li je to previše komplikovano? Znam da će stalno da bude novih članaka tu zbog kopiranja sa en viki, ali ako može bilo bi ok povremeno je prazniti. — Vux33 (razgovor) 06:19, 27. decembar 2023. (CET)
- Moguće je i nije previše komplikovano, ali se ne bih obavezivao na to u narednom periodu. Ako dobijem vremena u narednom periodu, mogu se time pozabaviti, ali ne bih obećavao ništa. SNG! — F± 16:42, 1. januar 2024. (CET)
Feliks bot zabušava malo :)
Feliks bot je stao 17. decembra, pa ga poteraj da radi .— Soundwaweserb (razgovor) 22:34, 27. decembar 2023. (CET)
- Sređeno. SNG! — F± 16:40, 1. januar 2024. (CET)
- Hvala. SNG!— Soundwaweserb (razgovor) 21:34, 4. januar 2024. (CET)
Spomenicaš
Nova je godina, zubarica da padne po neka spomenica — Milićević (razgovor) 13:06, 3. januar 2024. (CET)
- Može, gledaću da ga pustim uskoro. — F± 22:07, 3. januar 2024. (CET)
Pitanje korisnika Apetkovic01 (15:53, 4. januar 2024.)
Zdravo, kako da ubacim sliku na stranici u šablon? --Apetkovic01 (razgovor) 15:53, 4. januar 2024. (CET)
- Obično u šablonu ima parametar za sliku, gde se prosto navodi pun naziv slike, tipa Datoteka:naziv.jpg. Ako ti i dalje ne polazi za rukom, opiši mi koju sliku pokušavaš da ubaciš na koju stranu. — F± 21:31, 4. januar 2024. (CET)
Feliks bot i szr siročići
Da li bi mogao Feliks da pravi spisak stranica za razgovor (samo ns=1) bez pratećeg članka i da preskače one sa ČZB šablonom (ovo drugo nije toliko bitno)? Pokrenu sam pitanje na Vikipedija:Trg/Tehnika#Korisnik:Community_Tech_bot_&_stranice_za_razgovor ali za sad nema odgovora, otuda pitam tebe
Pozdrav i svako dobro — Milićević (razgovor) 12:48, 10. januar 2024. (CET)
- Može, samo da nađem malko vremena. — F± 22:34, 10. januar 2024. (CET)
Vreme rada bota
Radom bota preko dana zatrpao si nas bespotrebnim izmenama dok aktivno radimo. Pa bih te zamolio da to radiš samo preko noći.— Dr Milorad Dimić (razgovor) 13:06, 13. januar 2024. (CET)
- Bot radi sa zastavicom bota, tako da ne bi trebalo da smeta ikome. Botovi su skriveni sa skorašnjih izmena podrazumevano, tako da ne bi trebalo da smetaju. Ako vidite njegove izmene, samo dečekirajte prikaz botovskih izmena. — F± 13:31, 13. januar 2024. (CET)
FelixBot dodaje normativnu kontrolu na višeznačne odrednice
…što nema smisla. Treba ga podesiti da preskače VZO, i napraviti drugi prolaz da se ukloni iz onih članaka koje je već promenio. — Đido (razgovor) 06:59, 14. januar 2024. (CET)
- Slažem se. Srediću. Hvala na napomeni. — F± 15:32, 14. januar 2024. (CET)
- Vidi i ovo, da nije zalutalo još negde — Milićević (razgovor) 11:17, 16. januar 2024. (CET)
- A to je zato što je neko stavio kategoriju gore. To se retko dešava, pa se ne brinem previše o tome. — F± 16:56, 16. januar 2024. (CET)
- Vidi i ovo, da nije zalutalo još negde — Milićević (razgovor) 11:17, 16. januar 2024. (CET)
Bot
Još jednom veliko hvala za projekat Feliks botom. Drago mi je da je pitanje NK stavljeno ad akta. I time je onemogućeno dalje pumpanje izmjena dodavanjem NK. Kaži mi da li si raspoložen za dalje projekte botom? Ovi će biti manjeg obima i neće se odnositi na sve članke. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 14:38, 18. januar 2024. (CET)
- U principu jesam, samo kako mi vreme dozvoli. No, obim izmena nema toliko veze sa količinom posla -- ako treba napraviti bota, biće utrošeno manje-više isto vreme na pravljenje bota, nevezano da li će on da pokrije 100 ili 100 hiljada članaka. Jer mora da se napravi za sve članke da radi, a onda kad se napravi i pusti, on radi svoje, a ja samo blago nadzirem. — F± 16:15, 18. januar 2024. (CET)
- Razumijem. Imam nekoliko ideja. Raspisaću se čim budem bio slobodan. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 17:00, 18. januar 2024. (CET)
Pitanje korisnika Anatomija filma (00:04, 1. februar 2024.)
Pozdrav,
Na stranici Žarko Laušević piše da je on živeo u Srbiji od 2012. godine nakon pomilovanja, ali to se nije tako odigralo. Laušević se u Srbiju vratio da živi na privremeno kada je snimao film 'Smrdljiva bajka' koji je izašao 2015. godine. Posle toga, dolazio je u Srbiju samo kada je radio projekte, ali je i dalje živeo u SAD. Ne verujem da postoji direktan link koji bi to potkrepio, ali brojni intervjui njegovih saradnika svedoče tome da do 2015. godine nije došao ponovo da duže boravi u Beogradu,Srbiji. --Anatomija filma (razgovor) 00:04, 1. februar 2024. (CET)
Seminarci & podnaslov
Ne znam zašto a nije ni bitno, zašto seminarci uporno dodaju podnaslov na početku članku [55]. Skrećem ti pažnju, imaš kome da ukažeš na grešku — Milićević (razgovor) 14:40, 3. februar 2024. (CET)
- Ne znam, ja kad god držim predavanja, naglašavam da ti podnaslovi nisu neophodni. Verujem da i @Neboysha87 isto radi. — F± 19:32, 3. februar 2024. (CET)
- Zdravo, svim učesnicima naših obuka napominjemo da se podnaslovi ne stavljaju na početak teksta i većina to i ne radi. Ipak, desi se nekada da učesnici ne razumeju dovoljno dobro, pa to urade. Zato insistiramo na tome da učesnici naših obuka pišu tekstove u pesku pre konačnog prebacivanja u GIP kako bismo prošli kroz tekstove i što više ispravili njihove nedostatke. S tim u vezi bih hteo da kažem da vrlo cenim Vašu posvećenost i zalaganje u tom smislu, ali mislim da bi trebalo da ostavimo učesnicima malo vremena da sami unesu izmene u članak kad pišu u pesku pre našeg sređivanja istih. Na poslednjem seminaru se desilo da ste ispravljali članak na kom je učesnica radila, došlo je do sukobljenih izmena i njene izmene se nisu sačuvale. Još jednom, hvala na pomoći i na trudu, verujem u dobru nameru, ali to je i prilika da im ukažemo na propuste koje prave kako ih ne bi više ponavljali. @Milićević
— Neboysha87 (razgovor) 17:27, 14. februar 2024. (CET)
- Ok, ništa sporno. I mislim ali nisam sto posto siguran da u slučaju sukoba izmena, neće se nužno izgubiti izmene, nek probaju back (<-) u browseru. Imao sam sličnu situaciju ali ne mogu da se setim kako sam povratio izmene — Milićević (razgovor) 19:17, 14. februar 2024. (CET)
Pitanje
Imaš li ideju kako popraviti ispis literature na različitom fontu na Politička zloupotreba psihijatrije u Sovjetskom Savezu#Literatura? — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 14:45, 5. februar 2024. (CET)
- Nemam pojma, neki šablon vrv ili CSS... — F± 22:22, 5. februar 2024. (CET)
- Probao sam da popravim na više načina i za sada ništa.
- Daleko važnije, da li imamo tehničke mogućnosti da sprovedemo dopunu šablona Da li ste znali, odnosno da podignemo ukupan broj na 100 ili 120 kroz akciju. Vrte se isti, koliko, preko 10 godina? Morali bi da se izmjene trenutni šabloni, da uradimo nešto kao za dobre članke? — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 00:02, 9. februar 2024. (CET)
- Verujem da je tehnički moguće — F± 18:11, 9. februar 2024. (CET)
- Dva mjeseca kasnije, troje kolega i ja smo uradili nekoliko desetina novih šablona Da li ste znali, da osvježimo glavnu stranu, nakon mnogo godina kolotečine tog segmenta. Možeš li uspostaviti novi sistem postavljanja šablona, da ne idu na sedmičnom nivou, već da štelujemo na koliko se smjenjuju, što bi prema ukupnom trenutnom broju išlo na svakih 3-4 dana? Čini mi se da moramo spaliti trenutni sistem šaltanja šablona i napraviit novi, sličan kao za dobre članke. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 10:43, 14. april 2024. (CEST)
Spravica za brze opise izmjena
Zdravi Filipe. Ubacili smo kod nas novu spravicu koja ubacuje prečice za brze opise izmjena u vidu dugmadi. U podešavnjima, pod Test je posljednja navedena. Trenutno ne radi u vizuelnom uređivaču i treba nam tvoja pomoć oko toga. Đido je naveo šta misli da je problem, vidi razgovor. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 22:33, 27. mart 2024. (CET)
- Sad ne mogu ništa da uradim, dokle god sam nekoliko vremenskih zona od vas. Kad se vratim u Srbiju i kad mi se malo stabilizuju stvari, mogu pogledati. — F± 02:46, 28. mart 2024. (CET)
- U redu, hvala unaprijed. Čujemo se, veliki pozdrav. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 02:18, 30. mart 2024. (CET)
Growth News, April 2024
The Growth team will now send quarterly reports to keep you in the loop. Growth team weekly updates are available on wiki (in English) if you want to know more about our day-to-day work.
If you want to receive more general updates about technical activity happening across the Wikimedia movement (including Growth work), we encourage you to subscribe to Tech News.
Community Configuration
Growth features are currently configurable at Special:EditGrowthConfig
. This quarter we are working on making Community Configuration accessible for other MediaWiki developers while also moving Growth feature configuration to the new CommunityConfiguration extension.
An early version of Community Configuration can be tested at Spanish Beta Wikipedia. We plan to release the new Community Configuration extension to pilot wikis (Arabic and Spanish Wikipedia) in early May, 2024. The first non-Growth team feature to utilize Community Configuration will be Automoderator.
In parallel with the development, the Growth team will propose Community Configuration usage guidelines, Community Configuration design guidelines, and provide technical documentation.
Experiment Results
Add a Image experiment analysis results
The Growth team conducted an experiment to assess the impact of the “Add an Image” structured task on the Newcomer Homepage's "Suggested Edits" module. This analysis finds that the Add an Image structured task leads to an increase in newcomer participation on the mobile web platform, particularly by making constructive (non-reverted) article edits:
- The likelihood that mobile web newcomers make their first article edit (+17.0% over baseline)
- The likelihood that they are retained as newcomers (+24.3% over baseline)
- The number of edits they make during their first two weeks on the wiki (+21.8% over baseline)
- A lower probability of the newcomers' edits will be reverted (-3.3% over baseline).
Personalized praise experiment results
This feature was developed for Mentors as part of the Growth team's Positive Reinforcement project. When A/B testing on Spanish Wikipedia, we found no significant impact on retention, but we found a significant positive impact on newcomer productivity. However, we concluded that the results weren’t positive enough to justify the time investment from Mentors. We plan to discuss this feature with our pilot wikis, and consider further improvements before scaling this feature further. Meanwhile, communities willing to test the feature can ask to have it deployed. (T361763)
English donors encouraged to try editing
As in previous years, donors were directed to a Thank you page after donation (example). However, this year we tested a new “Try editing Wikipedia,” call to action on the Thank You page. This call to action linked to a unique account creation page. From this account creation page we were able to track Registrations and Activation (editing for the first time). During the English banner campaign, the Donor Thank you page led to 4,398 new accounts, and 441 of those accounts went on to constructively edit within 24 hours. (T352900)
Future work
Annual Plan
The Growth team and the Editing team will work on the WE1.2 Key Result in the coming fiscal year. We will start initial discussions with communities soon to help finalize our plans. (T361657)
Newcomer Homepage Community Updates module
We plan to A/B test adding a new Community Configurable module to the Newcomer Homepage that will allow communities to highlight specific events, projects, campaigns, and initiatives. We are early in the planning phase of this project that will take place first at our pilot wikis and wikis volunteering. We welcome community feedback on initial designs and plans, in any language at our project talk page.
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Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C
- You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki. Pomozite u prevođenju na svoj jezik
Dear Wikimedian,
You are receiving this message because you previously participated in the UCoC process.
This is a reminder that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) ends on May 9, 2024. Read the information on the voting page on Meta-wiki to learn more about voting and voter eligibility.
The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members were invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.
Please share this message with members of your community so they can participate as well.
On behalf of the UCoC project team,
RamzyM (WMF) 00:54, 3. maj 2024. (CEST)
Patroliranje
Zdravo kolega Dungodung, svima se dešavaju greškice i greške u radu, uključujući i patroliranje, ali mislim da slične kapitalne greške zaista ne bi trebale da budu patrolirane. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 14:32, 12. maj 2024. (CEST)
data[i] > result
Sa ovim uslovom sam se susretao kod izračunavanja najvećeg elementa u nizu.
#include <string>
std::string who_s_the_greatest(std::string data[], unsigned int size)
{
std::string result;
result = data[0];
for (size_t i{}; i < size; ++i)
{
if (data[i] > result)
{
result = data[i];
}
}
std::cout << result << std::endl;
return result;
}
int main()
{
std::string input[]{"I", "am", "the", "king", "of", "the", "jungle"};
who_s_the_greatest(input, std::size(input));
return 0;
}
Ja ovde pretpostavljam kažem: Ako je element niza veći od prvog elementa niza, onda pohrani taj element niza u promenljivu result. Da li i unutar if zagrade result menja vrednost? Ako je trenutni najveći element reč I, onda su od njega veći i king i of. A zašto baš dobijem na kraju rezultat the, to nisam u potpunosti koprehendovao. :)) — Vladimir Nimčević (razgovor) 14:14, 18. maj 2024. (CEST)
- Porediš stringove, umesto njihove dužine, tako da je "the" "najveći string", jer je t poslednje u abecedi od svih početnih slova iz niza stringova u primeru. — F± 21:42, 18. maj 2024. (CEST)
To razumem. Zanima me ovaj deo
if (data[i] > result)
{
result = data[i];
}
Odredimo da je I je trenutno najveći element. I onda poredimo. Da li je:
- am > I,
- the > I,
- king > I,
- of > I,
- the > I,
- jungle > I
Kako program na kraju posle ovih poređenja izračuna da je the najveće u nizu? Mi poredimo sva dva elementa, a drugi element je uvek I.— Vladimir Nimčević (razgovor) 21:53, 18. maj 2024. (CEST)
- am > I - => I
- the > I + => the
- king > the - => the
- of > the - => the
- the > the - => the
- jungle > the - => the — F± 21:56, 18. maj 2024. (CEST)
Aha. Znači donji assignment (result = data[i]) utiče na uslov gore (data[i] > result). I tako result postaje the. :) — Vladimir Nimčević (razgovor) 22:32, 18. maj 2024. (CEST)
Pitanje korisnika Jecad sa stranice Korisnik:Jecad/pesak (17:03, 25. maj 2024.)
Kako da sačuvam pesak? --Jecad (razgovor) 17:03, 25. maj 2024. (CEST)
- Imaš sigurno pri uređavanju dugme ”Objavi” — F± 21:30, 25. maj 2024. (CEST)
Kratak opis
Zdravo Filipe, pošto je konsenzusom urednika izglasano brisanje šablona kratak opis, da li nam možeš Feliksom prebaciti podatke iz šablona u opis na WikiData? Nakon toga možemo preći na masovno brisanje. Lp. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 17:17, 18. jun 2024. (CEST)
- U principu mogu, samo da malo nađem vremena za to. — F± 22:35, 18. jun 2024. (CEST)
- Super, bilo bi od velikog značaja. Da završimo sa tom pričom.
- I šta si mi ono kazao za nove šablone Da li ste znali namjenjene za naslovnu, o čemu smo ranije pričali? Hoću i to da sredim tokom narednog perioda, da nijesamo radili nove šablone badava a i da se osvježi sadržaj. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 23:44, 18. jun 2024. (CEST)
- Na šta tačno misliš, ne sećam se? — F± 22:38, 19. jun 2024. (CEST)
- Podseti me samo gde beše tačno izglasano ovo? Ne mogu nigde da nađem to glasanje. — F± 21:06, 2. jul 2024. (CEST)
- Zdravo poštovani kolega. Bio sam na kraćoj pauzi. Slobodno me označi kada ne odgovaram, malo je korisničkih SZR koje pratim.
- Prvo pitanje, vidi konsenzus za brisanje.
- Drugo, za šablone, mi smo praktično poduplali broj šablona za Da li ste znali kroz prethodno realizovanu akciju urednika. Trenutnih 50 nam je napravljeno prije 17 ili 18 godina i vrste se sa istim sadržajem unazad deceniju i po. Da bismo uvrstili novokreiranae šablone na naslovnu, potrebno je da se izmjeni kod odnosno sistem kako se vrte šabloni. Trenutno je podešeno − jedna sedmica jedan šablon. Vjerovatno da je potrebno uraditi nešto kao za dobre članke pa da ručno podesim (neće mi biti teško) po datumima? — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 23:10, 7. jul 2024. (CEST)
Provera
Pozdrav Filipe, imam jednu molbu za tebe. Ova slika je pod ORT brojem pa me interesuje da ako je Vlada Srbije dala dozvolu da se fotke objavljuju to bilo idealno za nove fotografije. Ja ne mogu da vidim broj a u našoj bazi ne postoji dozvola pod tim brojem. Hvala unapred. — Zmija bgd 22:12, 3. jul 2024. (CEST)
- Dozvola je data samo za tu sliku, tako da se definitivno ne odnosi na druga dela Vlade. — F± 22:43, 3. jul 2024. (CEST)
- Zahvaljujem. Zmija bgd 22:01, 4. jul 2024. (CEST)
FelixBot ne prebacuje kratke opise na Vikipodatke
...iako tvrdi da to radi. Npr. Posebno:Razlike/27933629. Opis izmene kaže ”Uklanjanje šablona "kratak opis" uz prebacivanje na Vikipodatke”, ali ja ne vidim da je opis dodat na Vikipodacima (d:Q3040262). Možeš li ga pauzirati dok se to ne reši? — Đido (razgovor) 04:59, 12. jul 2024. (CEST)
- Da, blokiran je na Vikipodacima zbog masovnih izmena bez bot zastavice. Ja bih prosto nastavio bez vikipodataka, nije da tu dobijamo preterano... — F± 16:40, 12. jul 2024. (CEST)
- Pa da, većina tih kratkih opisa su botovski, koji čak i nisu dobri opisi, jer ponavljaju subjekt (kao ”La Fonten (Vendeja) je naselje u Francuskoj”, gde bi trebalo ”selo u Francuskoj, u pokrajini Vendeja.” ili tako nešto).
- Kada sam pravio kategorije za praćenje šablona, malo sam uradio heuristike da prepoznam botovske opise. Ovde su (bili) prikupljeni članci gde su najverovatnije ljudi ih ručno unosili: Kategorija:Šablon:Kratak_opis/ručni. Vidi i Kategorija:Šablon:Kratak_opis za druge potkategorije.
- — Đido (razgovor) 17:15, 12. jul 2024. (CEST)
Pitanje korisnika Samoistina01 (05:14, 21. jul 2024.)
Ja volim i želim da pišem istinu. Ljudi vole istinu i to je moralno ispravno i poželjno.
ni na jednom jeziku ne piše da je to bio odbrambeni rat od strane koja ga je započela, zašto da se drugačije piše ćirilicom? --Samoistina01 (razgovor) 05:14, 21. jul 2024. (CEST)
Research about the tools on Wikimedia projects by the CEE Hub
Hi everyone,
We would like to invite you to submit your responses to the survey dedicated to the tools that are used currently across the Wikimedia projects and the tools that you want to have.
This survey was made by the working group of the CEE Hub, and your responses will be reviewed afterwards, as we want to continue supporting the communities. That support can be documentation for certain most used tools by other communities across the region per specific topics, finding solutions for new tools to be created in the future, creating most needed tools in the region (so called "regional wishlist list"), and many other options.
Deadline to fill in the survey is 20th of August, 2024.
Submit your answers here
Thank you in advance for your time that you will dedicate in filling in this survey --MediaWiki message delivery (razgovor) 15:07, 26. jul 2024. (CEST)
Growth News, July 2024
Community Configuration
The Growth team released Community Configuration at all Wikipedias. You can access it at Special:CommunityConfiguration
.
This new special page replaces Special:EditGrowthConfig
. For now, all Growth features can be configured using Community Configuration. Configuration for AutoModerator (T365046) and other features will be available in the future.
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If you attend Wikimania 2024, please join us for the session about Community configuration's future!
Current work
Newcomer Homepage Community Updates module
We will add a new Community Configurable module to the Newcomer Homepage that will allow communities to highlight specific events, projects, campaigns, and initiatives. We have released a simple version available to beta wikis. We will conduct an A/B test at our pilot wikis using the new Metrics Platform. We still welcome community feedback on initial designs and plans, in any language at our project talk page.
Future work
Increase constructive activation on mobile
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17:08, 30. jul 2024. (CEST)
Zaštiti me!
Zdravo! Pročitaj ovo Pozdrav! — Filipović Zoran (razgovor) 18:39, 1. avgust 2024. (CEST)
Preimenovanje DEFAULTSORT
Zdravo Filipe, da li možeš botom da sprovedeš odluku zajednice o preimenovanju magične riječi DEFAULTSORT sa engleskog na srpsko SORTIRANjE? Potom treba onemogućiti korišćenje engleskog termina kako bi tranzicija bila kompletno zaokružena. Koliko vidim, zadatak je uspješno završen. Ukoliko Feliks može da dejstvuje, pustio bih poruku na Trgu prije akcije, da obavjestimo ljude. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 21:19, 4. avgust 2024. (CEST)
- Nije problem da to uradim, samo nema šanse u narednih nedelju i kusur dana, pošto putujem na Vikimaniju uskoro i biću preokupiran njom sledeće nedelje. — F± 22:21, 4. avgust 2024. (CEST)
- Nema problema Filipe, javi se kada budeš slobodan. Uživaj na Vikimaniji. — Sadko (riječi su vjetar) 18:08, 5. avgust 2024. (CEST)
Ivan Šikić Mrvica
Pozdrav,
Stranica sa imenom iz naslova, koju sam napravio (prva), je obrisana. Da li sam u nečemu pogrešio?
Hvala — Nevajda (razgovor) 16:56, 6. avgust 2024. (CEST)
- Članak je bio označen kao početnički duže od nedelju dana i zato je obrisan. Početnički članci su oni koji nemaju previše podataka, ne slede veći broj smernica Vikipedije i zahtevaju značajne dorade. — F± 19:59, 6. avgust 2024. (CEST)
- Hvala na odgovoru.
- Da li mogu ponovo da ga objavim uz vaše instrukcije? Takođe imam još autentičnih dokumenata, pošto mi je Ivan bio deda-stric, (dedin brat). — Nevajda (razgovor) 20:16, 6. avgust 2024. (CEST)
- Možeš ponovo započeti članak, pa mogu da ti dam smernice oko poboljšanja ja ili neko drugi. — F± 20:18, 6. avgust 2024. (CEST)
- Hvala, javljam se kad započnem. — Nevajda (razgovor) 21:12, 6. avgust 2024. (CEST)
- Možeš ponovo započeti članak, pa mogu da ti dam smernice oko poboljšanja ja ili neko drugi. — F± 20:18, 6. avgust 2024. (CEST)
Feliks otišao na godišnji odmor :)
Izgleda je Feliksbot produžio letovanje pa ništa ne ažurira evo od 7. jula, poćeraj ga da nešto radi, dosta se odmarao — Soundwaweserb (razgovor) 21:14, 17. avgust 2024. (CEST)
- Hm, da, menjao sam lozinku i zaboravio da je promenim na tulfordžu. Sutra to ispravljam i vraća se u pogon! — F± 00:14, 18. avgust 2024. (CEST)
- Evo ga, radi :) — F± 21:55, 18. avgust 2024. (CEST)
Zamolio me Sadko da botom premestim znakove interpukcije ispred referenci u navedenom članku pošto ih ima dosta, e sad ja nisam uspeo napisati valjan kod za bota pa bih te zamolio za pomoć. Željeni rezultat
Мој покушај (u"<(.*?)/>.", u".<(.*?)/>"), (u"<(.*?)/>,", u",<(.*?)/>"), (u"<(.*?)/>:", u":<(.*?)/>"), (u"<(.*?)/>;", u";<(.*?)/>"), (u"{{[Нн]апомена\|(.*?)}}.", u".{{[Нн]апомена\|(.*?)}}"), (u"{{[Нн]апомена\|(.*?)}},", u",{{[Нн]апомена\|(.*?)}}"), (u"{{[Нн]апомена\|(.*?)}}:", u":{{[Нн]апомена\|(.*?)}}"), (u"{{[Нн]апомена\|(.*?)}};", u";{{[Нн]апомена\|(.*?)}}"),
— Milićević (razgovor) 21:53, 23. avgust 2024. (CEST)
- Kod stringa kojim se zamenjuje tekst, moraš da koristiš
\1
umesto ponovljenog regularnog izraza, jer to predstavlja prvu "mečovanu" grupu. — F± 22:24, 23. avgust 2024. (CEST)- Nisam ti se snašao, ako ti nije problem koriguj mi gornji kod. Željeni ishod znak interpukcije da ide pre ref taga odnosno šablona Napomena — Milićević (razgovor) 00:35, 24. avgust 2024. (CEST)
- Pa znači:
u"<(.*?)/>\.", u".<\1/>"),
- E sad, ne sećam se da li treba duplo da se eskejpuje, pa ako ovo gore ne radi, onda probaj sa
u"<(.*?)/>\.", u".<\\1/>"),
. Takođe sam, ako primetiš, eskejpovao tačku, jer tačka u regularnom izrazu znači bilo koji karakter, a ti želiš da uhvati baš tačku, pa je treba eskejpovati. — F± 13:53, 24. avgust 2024. (CEST)- Uspeo sam donekle, ref tagove nije u stanju da razlikuje npr ima ih 5, pokupi znakove posle svih i stavi ih ispred prvog od tih 5. U principu hvla na pomoći ipak sam nešto poradio — Milićević (razgovor) 15:33, 24. avgust 2024. (CEST)
- Nisam ti se snašao, ako ti nije problem koriguj mi gornji kod. Željeni ishod znak interpukcije da ide pre ref taga odnosno šablona Napomena — Milićević (razgovor) 00:35, 24. avgust 2024. (CEST)
Korisnik:FelixBot/preusmerenja
Zdravo, Filipe. Stranice sa spiskom preusmjerenja nisu ažurirane od 19. maja, pa bih te zamolio da to uradiš, naravno ukoliko je moguće.— Ranko Nikolić (razgovor) 19:42, 29. avgust 2024. (CEST)
- nisam zaboravio na ovo, nego nikako da se posvetim tome, ali možda ću sutra stići... — F± 21:42, 28. septembar 2024. (CEST)
- Evo, ispravljeno. Pustio sam sada ažuriranje, a svakako će biti ažurirano i prilikom sledećeg pokretanja svih akcija. — F± 19:20, 29. septembar 2024. (CEST)
Results from the survey about the tools on Wikimedia projects by the CEE Hub
Hi everyone,
During August 2024, we sent you a survey about the tools, so now we would like to bring to your attention the conclusions and results from the survey, which you can explore on this Meta page.
I hope you will enjoy exploring the mentioned tools on the page, along with other conclusions from the survey. Thanks for your time, and we will continue working on this important topic. --MediaWiki message delivery (razgovor) 14:10, 7. oktobar 2024. (CEST)